This will be my second Christmas. Last year was a bit stressful and awkward but over all a very fun and festive experience.
I'm anxious to get started this year but am forcing myself to wait until December.
Gabe
i was in the mood today... got the tree cheap (came w/lights), decorations and ribbon for half price and made the bow myself to save money.
i was going to put it aside until after thanksgiving, but couldn't resist completing the project.
i just have to get some fiber fill for "snow" at the base.
This will be my second Christmas. Last year was a bit stressful and awkward but over all a very fun and festive experience.
I'm anxious to get started this year but am forcing myself to wait until December.
Gabe
it seems to me that many who leave jw's become very well informed about their former way of life and their desire to change from this life style.
become very sarcastic and cynical , they seem to lack any sure direction or purpose in life.
but for life to have.
I have spent the couple of years since being df'd on learning how to properly treat people with kindness, compassion, and love.
It took over a year to wash all of the pre-judging and hate out of me but it is such a relief to be done with it.
I feel like that is kind of my purpose in life now, to be a good person and treat others as if they are too.
My passion is music though. With the newfound evenings and weekends that I reclaimed I have taken to studying, writing, and performing all sorts of music. It has filled that hole of time with a hobby that is rewarding and truly mine.
Gabe
last year i coordinated secret santa for jwn and am happy to do so again.
however i would like to get organised sooner rather than later since international postage means that santas need to be allocated by the end of november to ensure that presents can be despatched in good time for christmas.
if you wish to participate please let me know and indicate whether you are happy to post internationally or whether you would prefer someone in the same country.
Absolutely! I only have a couple of people to give gifts to, so this would be a great addition.
as a jw...at least if you were social...you could walk into about any hall and find other social jw's you could become friends with...yes they are conditional...perhaps more so than other friends, but i did have some great friends there and i still miss them.
since my wake up....then departure....now df status....i realize that i have had only seven or so real friends and five were found here..... five are fairly local, one is far away, and one is an old high school friend i have reconnected with (lives a thousand miles away).....and i have met some nice people through these friends but they are more aquaintances than close friends.
the bar scene did not really get me anywhere with guys or girls...and i tried meetup.com but as of yet have not connected with anyone....so what worked for you?
Hi Oompa.
It's been a while since we talked. Both of our situations sound to have changed a bunch.
I've found friends in various places, none that I'm really tight with, but nice people.
There's a monthly entrepreneur's club/meeting here that has been a lot of fun. I went to a couple of "book club" meetings at the public library. They choose a book every month and have a couple of discussions about it. Not totally my scene, but some nice folk there.
You might check the groups and/or activities section of your local craigslist site.
That's just a few ideas.
Good luck friend.
Gabe
i was out friday night with a few of the friends i have made since leaving jws behind, when lo and behold, it turns out that one of their boyfriends was an exjw too!
i was excited at first, as i had not yet met someone who was exjw and gay in the flesh until now.
however, my excitement was shortlived.
It's terrible that he has held on to his fear of the WT & JW's. However, if it is a genuine fear of displeasing "God" that he has you can certainly use that to help him.
He has a lot of WT thought patterns to break.
1) Ask him why he believes armageddon is so near? World events or because he is gay?
2) Empathize with his loss of family.
3) Perhaps discourage his recreational drug use if that's appropriate. Does this provide him guilt as well?
4) Encourage him to research his depression.
You can't "fix" him. But if you can help pull out just a couple of the WT bricks, the wall of guilt will crumble down.
If he is feeling a massive amount of guilt in displeasing "God" start with that first maybe. Jesus' message was one of love and compassion. The whole purpose of his being on earth was to free us from sin. His being here gave him a perspective on human struggle that truly benefits us.
Does "God" approve of homosexuality? That's not important. "God" loves all. He forgives all. We are what we are and "God" will work with that.
L
i once turned in 39 hours helping another to reach their pioneer goal.
fairly accurate reporting of the hours as well.
135 cramming to make my hours for the year my 3rd year of pioneering. Lots of evening phone witnessing, and letter writing that month.
L
so we have probably all had someone confront us with prov.
4:18 about the light getting brighter.
jw's even have their own words for it "new light".
So we have probably all had someone confront us with Prov. 4:18 about the light getting brighter. JW's even have their own words for it "NEW LIGHT".
It came up again in a casual, non-confrontational conversation with my wife and I had an opportunity to point out John 3:34 - "34 For the one whom God sent forth speaks the sayings of God, for he does not give the spirit by measure." (NWT)
It seems to me that the JW view of "NEW LIGHT", i.e. changing light/flickering light directly counters John 3:34. Jehovah would NOT give the spirit by measure. If there was such a thing as absolute biblical truth, Jehovah would give it in full measure, not partial.
I know that many see this type of reasoning as pointless, going scripture for scripture to disprove JW beliefs, but this scripture may get me out of many future jams, maybe it will help someone else.
L
i would love to have a copy to compare this to the newest change from april.
i also have the 1995 awake bound volume that had the old change.
thanks for all yalls help.
I'd like to see it as well.
i had noticed on the board recently of several posters mentioning what they , or someone they know has gone through being brought before a jehovah's witness judicial committee - so i thought it would be good to share experiences so we all can get an idea of what has worked for some of you in dealing with it , and also methods to use when dealing with the elders , and it might open some lurkers eyes to the injustices suffered by many - which by the way usually isn't discussed in the rank and file witnesses .
many of you know my experience - so i will be brief.
long story short i was inactive for 3 and a half years , scripturally free to remarry , had not attended meetings for that long.
My only JC meeting was for a "minor" offense. It was relatively painless but I remember this quote from the "head" of the JC. After sweating in the hallway for 20 minutes I was called back in and told.
"It is the decision of this committee to show mercy..."
I was put on private reproof. I felt lucky but could never figure out how it was their right to "show mercy".
L
lets have a free for all .
i would say why dont you have a book study anymore but that one is done to death... we had a witness recently and i asked for the latest jw only mag (he didn't realise i used to be in his cong... have i done that good a job at fading?
) it was a laugh to see the two of them struggle to come up with an answer.... ok lets here the best you can come up with, there has to be some better than mine, what question will leave them stuck for an answer...... .
Hey, one of you guys (gals) got a smoke I can bum?
L