Posts by Vivamus

if you think it could make a decent anti-witnessing tool, i might dress it up with links to the quotes site and the watchtower site to prove the accuracy of the points made.. if you see any inaccuracies or misleading comments, please let me know.. url = http://www.thebentinel.com/jw-quiz.php (embedded below).

Vivamus

37% !!!! Ow come-on!! LMao, propbably cuz of the fact that i dont care what other people think?? But this respons made me LOL:

How do you view the Bible?
The Bible is bunk
This is not good. The Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the Bible is fully-inspired of God. They believe that "the" Bible is the collection of 66 books found in the King James version, though they also feel that their own unique translation is the best one available. If you can't accept Noah's Ark, people conversing with donkeys, and people being executed for lying about real estate transactions, then JW's probably aren't for you.

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Blue Bubblegum Girl

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JWD has given me....

by jgnat in

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hi, my name is janet and i love jwd.

if there were any doubt, it has been blown away by my 5000?th post, making me a supreme one.

for newbies, i am a non-jehovah?s witness married to one.

Vivamus

Congrats Janet

As for your question, JWD helped me when I came out, it gave me the feeling of not being alone when I was in a mess after the borg. Later, it helped me when my mum joined, cuz she finally, finally! began to understand the things I had been saying to her (my mum is Country Woman for you all who didn't know).

And it gave me the opportunity to meet some really dear people on the Apostafests I have attended and (some I) arranged. Although I post not all that often anymore, I check every day. This place acknoledges (sp) what I and many have gone through, and I am very happy it's here. So thank you Simon for that, and thank you all for being here.

Plus, I can be as goofy as I like here

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Blue Bubblegum Girl

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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #124

by ozziepost in

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did you miss it?

- the poll i mean!!

mrs ozzie and i have been in a different part of the world for a while where things such as jwd are quite unknown - can you believe that?

Vivamus

LOL, you seem to forget Ozzie, we are all EX- dubs. No wonder we slacked in some areas, like notes taking.

We had one very zealous young lad, who was the son of an elder and a pioneer himself ... no doubt will be made elder some day. After the assembly he would take us, at the next meeting, through his notes every time. Reminding us all how important it was to take em.

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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #124

by ozziepost in

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did you miss it?

- the poll i mean!!

mrs ozzie and i have been in a different part of the world for a while where things such as jwd are quite unknown - can you believe that?

Vivamus

Taking notes was very much encouraged by our elders. But regular meetings harldy ever made me take notes. Tho sometimes I brought a notebook when i felt very much in need of spiritual guidance . I did however also used it, together with my pioneer friend, to draw funny pcts of elders.

At assembly's ... well, I found one of my notebooks recently. And as i flipped through it, I found my grammies handwriting. I had written to her "This ia awfully boring, and the rest of the progremm doesn't look any better, shall we leave after lunch and come back tomorrow?" To which she had replied "yes yes yes!"

Now, I bet ya that was *not* the way they intentended the notebook should be used.

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Market day in Goedereede......

by Country_Woman in

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i finally found out what i had to do to copy pictures into my laptop - and found some i want to share with you.. .

goedereede is a very old city and there are always lots of tourist looking at the typical old houses.

nice detail, the first picture showes "hotel de gouden leeuw" this house is also known (in goedereede) as the popes house: the only dutch pope ever did live here for a while.

Vivamus

Bravo!

Beautiful town too.

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Is it morally right ...

by Vivamus in

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... to try and attempt at getting through to an 70 year old elder?.

on rash impuls i wrote a letter to one elder.

a man who is most dear to me, even though my feelings towards the jw are negative at best.

Vivamus

Thanx all of you for your answes, tho not fair, to write such good things while I am vast asleep, then read them with sleepy eyes just for I have to get my self to work. I keep finding the matter to be muddy blurred as far as morals go. I keep weighing what you say to what I feel, and I can't come out with any other response than stil agreeing with the decision to have send the letter. Freedom 96, you said it right, I did owe him that much, and I guess that was my most pushing feeling that made me do it.

Ona, wow, that is sad in so many ways. But I can also very well understand it. And I guess somewhere That elder is better of, he knows, yet remains, a hard posotion but at leats one out of his own choosing. I kind of respect that, I think.

LT That's quite true, there can be many outcomes of this. And I suppose the most likiest will be nothing at all. Read, analyze and discard ... And well yes, he did asking a few times, genuinly asking to help. So he did at least deserved to know "why" i didn't come back.

Penny, well, lol, he really wasn't one that the "normal" flock would go to. I respected him for his mind, gawd the man could discuss. And most of em didn't really appreciate it.

Getbusyliving, part of me feels like that as well. Hence my dillemma of morals. Tho I did indeed send the letter already. Doubts sprang when I forgot to post that damn thing three times, and then decided against sending it al together. Only to learn that my mum had by then posted it for me, scatterbrained wench that I am ... But then, he is old, he is happy, but he also is, or at least was, not too happy with me up and leaving without so much as a goodbye. He has called on my door more than a dozen times. That is genuine. And I did feel that I could not stay silent like that. he sounded *hurt* when I told him last time I wasn't coming back, yet didn't tell him why. He didn't even know of the slimy things done at my DF, cuz he was't in my congregation by that time. *sigh* I dunno, when I wrote it, it felt *right* to do so.

Frenchbabyface, true enough

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Is it morally right ...

by Vivamus in

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... to try and attempt at getting through to an 70 year old elder?.

on rash impuls i wrote a letter to one elder.

a man who is most dear to me, even though my feelings towards the jw are negative at best.

Vivamus

Satanus, true enough. And I dont wanne harress him, I just wanted to explain. Left some things unfinished, and he din't close them off either. I just felt I had to at least try.

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Is it morally right ...

by Vivamus in

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... to try and attempt at getting through to an 70 year old elder?.

on rash impuls i wrote a letter to one elder.

a man who is most dear to me, even though my feelings towards the jw are negative at best.

Vivamus

Runningman, lol, why don't you turn my own logic against me, eh? Lol. But yes, I see your point.

Honesty, thank you, that reassures me more than anything.

Mum (CW), you may be right, I think you are anyways.

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Is it morally right ...

by Vivamus in

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... to try and attempt at getting through to an 70 year old elder?.

on rash impuls i wrote a letter to one elder.

a man who is most dear to me, even though my feelings towards the jw are negative at best.

Vivamus

Runningman. In the past three years I have practically lost everyone in my life except my mum. I am young, resiliant and have a lifetime before me where I can live in freedom. I have no regrets about leaving.

But what if I was now not 26 and in this situation. But 73. An honest person, who had a crisis of concience and left. Freedom lays ahead, yes, but also the loss of his children, his faith, his view of the world.

I just dunno. Situations are so different for everyone. Who are we to decide what is best for a man? Who are we to say, look here now, what you have been working for the past lifetime is a bald lie and in fact you have nothing thats truth in your life. Who are we to force that information upon them?

How do you view the Bible?
The Bible is bunk
This is not good. The Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the Bible is fully-inspired of God. They believe that "the" Bible is the collection of 66 books found in the King James version, though they also feel that their own unique translation is the best one available. If you can't accept Noah's Ark, people conversing with donkeys, and people being executed for lying about real estate transactions, then JW's probably aren't for you.