Posts by Vivamus

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Family love.

by Vivamus in

this is a rather sweet story, and i love telling it.

january this year was the time when i decided for sure that i would leave the witnesses.

i had made up my mind, had told the elders that my faith had died, and so i had made the ball for my df rolling.

Vivamus

Thanks for your nice comments and welcomes!!!

LadyLee, indeed. My family has told me many times since then, how good it was that I was back again. And how good it was that I was beginning to be me again. Being a JW does suppress your own personality....

Dede, your uncle sounds about just as wonderful as mine. Give him a big hug!

Ugg, it's hard, but definitely worth it, it's a "brave new world" out there...

Karen, I find that the new friendships that I am building now, are so much more valuable than the ones in the truth. As JW, you just had to like one and another, based on your religion. Now I have friends who like me, for me. And the worldly friendships I still had, have grown much closer.

Avengers... I accept your apologies, although I must admit, it was the first time anyone ever thought I was a man....

Viv.

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Family love.

by Vivamus in

this is a rather sweet story, and i love telling it.

january this year was the time when i decided for sure that i would leave the witnesses.

i had made up my mind, had told the elders that my faith had died, and so i had made the ball for my df rolling.

Vivamus

Hi there,

This is a rather sweet story, and I love telling it. So here it is...

January this year was the time when I decided for sure that I would leave the witnesses. I had made up my mind, had told the elders that my faith had died, and so I had made the ball for my DF rolling. I had not told anyone else about my doubts, not even my mum, who was and still is, a witness. On deciding to enter the real world again, I decided that my first act of disobedience would be to attend my uncle's birthday. January 20th.

I will never forget this. I entered the living room, where a large group of my family members were. And I made an Entrance! The minute I walked in, there just was a silence, eyes were wide open, jaws were slacked. Honestly, I wish I could have taken a picture of that. I stepped up to my uncle, kissed him and said, in a very pronounced voice "Happy Birthday". And then I just sad down, conversations started again, no questions were asked.

A few minutes later, my aunt went into the kitchen to get some snacks, and I followed to help her. In the kitchen she turned to me with question marks in her eyes. And I said, "I am leaving the witnesses". She hugged me, started crying, and so naturally, I started too. A bit later my uncle came in, and I told him the same news. And I also apologised for not having a birthday present for him... He said "You coming back to us, is the best present anyone could have ever given me".

Viv.

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Can owning/reading apostate material get me DF'ed?

by PandaJ in

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friends

hello, first time poster, long time reader.. i was wondering just what my title asks.

if i own/read/admit to apostate material, can that get me df'ed?.

i know better then to admit that i believe the apostate material to the elders, or that i disagree with the society's teachings, but will simply admitting to owning and reading them get me df'ed?.

Vivamus

Hey Prisila,

I know, it hurts like hell.

You are entitled to live your life. It is your gift, live it, enjoy it.

Hang in there.

A BIG hug to you!

Viv.

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The sound of one Dub clapping

by OUTLAW in

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as i was growing up,i noticed the dubs at assemblys would clap at the slightest provocation.it looked like a beach full of seals.as soon as a few started,the rest would join in.for some it looked like they just woke up and figured they should start clapping so no one would know they fell asleep.most just looked like seals clapping for a fish.kids notice funny things.did any of you notice dub mass behaviour you found funny...outlaw .

edited by - outlaw on 20 july 2002 2:51:40edited by - outlaw on 20 july 2002 2:59:1.

Vivamus

When I first came into the Kingdom Hall, I would only clap when I thought it was a good speaker (and there weren't too many of that). But then the sister who gave me bible study told me that was unkind. The speakers were all brothers in service for Jehovah, and if I clapped for one, I should clap for all.

So I became a good dub and clapped like a madman.

Viv.

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Spreekt of schrijft iemand hier Nederlands?

by fulano in

ik wel.

Vivamus

Hallo lieve mensen!

Hello dear all,

Andy, yeah I am sure we will see eachother. It really is cool to meet fellow countrymen here.

SYN, just had to tell you that your picture is s cute!

Viv.

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JW's Get DF'd

by messenger in

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i guess turn about is fair play.... ap world politicshttp://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020719/ap_wo_en_po/egypt_copts_1 pope shenouda warns copts that marriage with jehovah's witnesses is ground for excommunication, divorce fri jul 19, 9:17 am et.

cairo, egypt - the head of the coptic orthodox church criticized the jehovah's witness faith and said a copt's conversion to the sect was a ground for divorce, egypt's middle east news agency reported on friday.

pope shenouda iii said conversion to the jehovah's witness faith was a ground for divorce within his church.

Vivamus

O dear,

Babylon The Great is Attacking God's Loyal Organisation.

Can just see the headlines in the new Watchtower.

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Do Jws really enjoy being Jws?

by haujobbz in

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i say this because half the witnesses i knew never seemed to be into answering at meetings,preaching the good news,being united with others.you see when i got baptised which was about 2 years ago i was really into answering at meetings,preaching etc and guess what people in the hall thought there was something wrong with me,they would say things like youll get used to it, you wont be happy much longer,this made confused because i thought these people were really into what they did with there hearts.i was obviously wrong,i then started to wonder does going to meetings,preaching,etc really show your a true christian you know serving god with a whole heart,all these organised rules didnt really matter i thought,you see if these people had do bible research,arrange the preaching themselves do you think they would do it.i now believe that serving god through organisations doesnt really make you closer to god i think serving god on your own really shows ones heart condition and how much you love god.

p.s.

im not a" jw no more" and still working out religion etc, i do swear and lie now though lol

Vivamus

Years ago at a convention, an elder came to say "hello" to me and my mum. And he put his hand on my mothers arm and said "Isn't this wonderful, the new world will be just like a convention going on forever". My mum just exclaimed "For the love of God! I do hope NOT".

Viv.

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Anybody familiar with Tarot?

by raven101 in

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once upon a time i thought it was quite demonic, i eventually ended up making a living at it for a time.. jung did some research in the field.. does anyone else have experience with the cards?.

Vivamus

Had a reading done a few weeks ago. The lady who did the reading said I had a "dark aura". Well, that put a damper to my day. Cost me $25.00 to hear that?!!!

Viv.

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Spreekt of schrijft iemand hier Nederlands?

by fulano in

ik wel.

Vivamus

Andy, you're quit right, I will amend my ways . Haha, but I must admit, I would get tired of writing everything in Dutch first, and then translating it... However, Dutchmen or Dutch speaking men and women, mail me, and I will talk Dutch to you.

Status quo in the Netherlands? As far as I know there really isn't much going on in order to help ex-witnesses. (Or maybe I am just living in one of those areas where no news is penetrating). Can't we organise something for ourselves? I read about all those nice barbies and gatherings in England and the States, and uhm, I kinda want that too!

Viv.

Edited by - Vivamus on 19 July 2002 18:14:20

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Can owning/reading apostate material get me DF'ed?

by PandaJ in

jw
friends

hello, first time poster, long time reader.. i was wondering just what my title asks.

if i own/read/admit to apostate material, can that get me df'ed?.

i know better then to admit that i believe the apostate material to the elders, or that i disagree with the society's teachings, but will simply admitting to owning and reading them get me df'ed?.

Vivamus

Hey PandaJ,

No, I got disfellowshipped for a few transgressions that I did not regret. Still don't actually. Owning the apostate material was just one of those transgressions.

I don't think you will be excluded for it, if that is your only wrong doing. But think on this one: what does it tell you, when an organisation classifies critical literature as "wrong"???

Viv.