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  A 3 phase great tribulation.?? Has anybody else heard this before? July 15 2013 Watchtower

  by SeekingTheRealTruth in

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  am i the only one that never heard this before?

  on pg 3 par 3 of july 15 2013 watchtower it says "for a number of years, we thought that the great tribulation began in 1914 with world war i and that "those days were cut short" by jehovah in 1918 when the war ended so that the remnant would have the opportunity to preach the good news to all nations.

  " after the completion of that preaching work,satans empire would be destroyed.

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  They got rid of this teaching in the late 70's, saying that the First WW was not as bad as even the second, which was not part of this "tribulation" so awful it had never been seen before. In that study, they put a new idea that Daniel 12 foretold the length of WW2 - 1800 odd days. that was never mentioned again, and they went back to the rinky-dinky A$$emblies in the 20s idea.

  Most young witlesses dont even know of this GT teaching- they must be talking about it to put another spin on a doctrine, or to introduce a new "troof" - noolite- that depends on debunking this teaching which was forgotten for thirty or more years.

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  A 3 phase great tribulation.?? Has anybody else heard this before? July 15 2013 Watchtower

  by SeekingTheRealTruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  am i the only one that never heard this before?

  on pg 3 par 3 of july 15 2013 watchtower it says "for a number of years, we thought that the great tribulation began in 1914 with world war i and that "those days were cut short" by jehovah in 1918 when the war ended so that the remnant would have the opportunity to preach the good news to all nations.

  " after the completion of that preaching work,satans empire would be destroyed.

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  "From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained" - The Chapter on the last days, and "how this World Meets its End"

  The great tribulation was interrupted in 1918, so that the harvest could save those who might otherwise not be saved.

  P.197: The Great Crowd has come out of the Great Tribulation... this tribulation began on the Devil's organization AD 1914, when Jehovah's newly enthroned King took war against his enemies in Heaven.

  Jesus said this tribulation would be cut short so that some flesh could be saved. How was it cut short? By God stopping the war action in heaven against the Devil's organization.

  It is during this in - between period... that the Great crowd of "other sheep" come out. Now is that time. (Most of them are now dead so wont "come out of anything"!!)

  It is a load of SHITE.

  Read a reliable history of the First World War, then you will know why it really ended.

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  AUSTRALIA | Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower Society Appear Before Child Abuse Inquiry | Thursday 11 April, 2013

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  jehovah's witnesses say it is not their responsibility to report child sex abuse to police unless mandatory reporting legislation is in place.. a victorian inquiry on thursday heard that when a jehovah's witness leader hears allegations of abuse they are directed immediately to contact the society's legal department to check their obligations under state law.. jehovah's witness legal counsel rachel van witsen said elders were not expected to know their legal obligations.. "this is done to ensure elders fully comply with any legal requirements that may be applicable in the state in which they reside," she said.. "in victoria if there was mandatory reporting the immediate advice would be to report that immediately.".

  the society's director terrence o'brien said the decision to take the allegations to police lay with the victim.. "without mandatory reporting we don't feel that as ministers of religion that's our obligation to do that," mr o'brien said.. however, the organisation would encourage the victim to report it and would co-operate fully with police, he said.. ms van witsen said elders would make an exception if they felt the child was threatened.. "we would report that to appropriate authorities," she told the inquiry.. "we're about stopping child abuse.".

  two ministers have been removed from the society for child sex abuse in 40 years of records, the parliamentary inquiry heard.. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/04/11/20/59/jehovah-s-witnesses-stay-in-line-on-abuse.

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  So - only TWO - yes TWO!!!!! elders have been removed for child abuse in the last 40 years.

  It confirms the accusation of Silent Lambs that abusers are still in "good standing" even after being tried and convicted.

  What about warning those in danger (the reason all witlesses are told to go on door to bore misery) But of course - protecting children doesnt bring in money or more victims to sucker.

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  2013 June Our Kingdom Ministry!

  by Atlantis in

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  2013 june our kingdom ministry.send space.click the link by the blue arrow..http://www.sendspace.com/file/9u0ubm.file swap.click slow download.http://www.fileswap.com/dl/s3ya7frtwr/.file flyer.click the green download button.http://www.fileflyer.com/view/m33uubk...petra/vulcan

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  "Time left is reduced" Paul penned that cliffhanger 2 000 years ago. I need Tenna panty liners i am sooo excited.

  More Kingdumb Misery, and door to bore hawking the Witchtower.

  HB
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  No more big District Conventions?

  by serenitynow! in

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  so i went to the hall today for a funeral and took a look at the bulletin board.

  i was surprised to see a letter stating the dc for michigan would be held at the local assembly hall instead of the big convention center in ohio where it had been held the past few years.

  have you all heard about this?.

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  Noolite memo on "BULLETIN" board?!!!!!! What was this?

  Bulletin is from the italian "bulletino" or little notice, put up on a wall or church door. From the latin "bulla" or announcement.

  What did the memo say?

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  The July 15 Watchtower and all its new light is only...

  by sosoconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  making people cling to the organization more.

  when i found out it was up i told so many people frantically that there is a new study article up and that it had so many changes.

  my mother started crying saying how happy she is to be a part of an organization that is truly directed by jehovah... only the true faithful and discreeet slave could have such insight.... another person began to say how great it is to see the celestial chariot on the move.. .

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  Most of the people who were told they were "behold - the Great Crowd" are now DEAD DEAD DEAD. So they were NOT the GC as it says they "come out of the Great Trubulation".

  The increasing number of partakers shows that the Great Crowd is now being gathered. As John 6 says all who want everlasting life must eat Christ and drink his blood. Proof of how near the end we are.

  A WT of about 3 years ago discussed the passage in John, and pointed out that jesus was talking to people of BOTH hopes.

  Jehooobies Chariot is moving to explain what was never expected. I am going back to the Kingdumb hell and eating those crackers...

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  Immoral sleeping arrangement?

  by hoser in

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  i'm reading through the watchtower rule book right now and i came to the chapter clarification and guidelines on handling certain matters.

  there is a part about scriptural divorce and even if adultery is not proved if your ex stayed all night or is involved in an immoral sleeping arrangement you can get scriptural grounds to remarry.. .

  they make a rule, then they have to make a rule for the rule, make another rule for the rule for the rule.

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  The elduhs can now DF you for what they think MIGHT have happened - even if the accused deny it.

  How is a sleeping arrangement immoral. If all you are doing is sleeping under the same roof and nothing more?

  There was a case in the midwest - its on this board, where the weather changed and the brothers visiting would have risked their lives in sub zero temperatures if she had made them leave. The elders DFed her.

  It is getting soo victorian and puritannical no sane person gives them any credibility as Gods mouthpiece.

  God help you if you have an alsatian living in your home - what will you get up to the elduhs must wonder.

  Can you let somebody's child stay over night and be DF for child molesting? PROBABLY NOT
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  Julia's Inquisition - Two elders, the full version! I want you all to see this.

  by Julia Orwell in

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  sorry it's gonna be long winded.

  i've done my best to reconstruct from memory.

  my husband was next to me the whole time.

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  The Witchtower is from their father a liar and father of the lie.

  They have told and continue to tell so many lies they deserve to be lied to.

  As it says in Proverbs: "answer a fool according to his foolishness."

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  Bethel Laying Off

  by Bob_NC in

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  can anyone comment on whether bethel is laying people off?

  as in, sending folks out of bethel to go pioneer somewhere?

  i have heard rumors but would like more detail.

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  NY passed a law saying these kinds of operation must provide health care and pensions to the older volunteers.

  Same as in Spain - that's the real reason they closed the Spanish Beth Hell.

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  Modesty in Dress and Grooming - May KM

  by expatbrit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok you slutty and independent slobs, pay attention.

  how many instances of loaded language and mind-control techniques can you spot in the following article from the may 2002 km?

  whoever gets the most wins a brown suit from goodwill.. modesty in dress and grooming- km may 2002.

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  KINGDUMB MISERY