Just saw Oompah's post. Tears in eyes.
HB
what is the stupidest thing a jw ever told you?
we all know that they say a lot of stupid things, but what really topped the cake?.
for me, it was an elder telling me i was progressing really well when my meeting attendance was down and my field service hours were slipping.
Just saw Oompah's post. Tears in eyes.
HB
so i have some interesting news about the special assembly day.
normally at the assembly, my parents pay close attention and take turns taking notes.
then after the program, they enjoy socializing for some time.
I remember the early nineties, before the first big Generation change.
I had to go away on business for a few days, and went to the Group and Thursday meeting.
For the first time I was noticing how stilted and artificial peoples behavior at the Kingdumb hell can be. I felt that I was not one of them. Getting home the feeling continued, I was an outsider. Then of course the changes in dogma started, and I have never looked back.
Sounds like your parents are waking up...
HB
johnny the mysterious bethelite shows up on the six screens "late night with the twins" program april, 20, 2013. .
johnny claims to be an active bethelite and is serving as a "mole" (an insider divulging adverse information about the watchtower) and uses the six screens tele-network as a conduit to speak up.. .
if you are an active or former jehovah's witness listen in to johnny, you will be shocked... johnny says he was offered jw sisters by a governing body member in an attempt to quiet him..
I suppose it depend on whether you belong to the little frock or not.
now that i am really "awake" at the assemblies i pay more attention to what the borg's traveling enforcers say and the talk he gave was some "new light" on 2 thess.
1:8 (probably his opinion).
paraphrased " there is a thinking that has crept in somehow in the minds of some brothers over the years that because jehovah is a merciful &loving god he will not destroy those who have not been reached with the good news in different parts of the world or my family or bible studies need just a little more time, well they need to read this script.. .
They worship the same vicious genocidal psychopath as ever.
Strange to say, most of us can forgive our children for taking a cookie or a piece of fruit without wanting to kill them and our grandchildrenand great grandchildren.
The Witchtower god is created in the same image as the vindictive hate-filled narrow minded dust farting reptiles in Crooklyn Beth Hell.
No wonder so few people accept "Da TRoof" - who even WANTS a "god" like theirs??
HB
this case is in it's 9th year an has been touched upon briefly on and off.. the latest from the federal court is that all gated communites in puerto rico have until april 23 to provide the watchtower corporation full access.... this means the entry code or remote control devices that open the front fence.. this is clearly an act of provocation in order to create "pseudo-persecution" thereby increasing fs hours and "voluntary donations"....
They have to protect the rights of pedos "in good standing" to go into any neighbourhood and meet the children....
the mill hill london, england, congregation was set up as a charitable trust in 1997.. www.charity-commission.gov.uk/library/investigations/pdfs/lonmill.pdf.
having read through the above link, i found a couple of disturbing statements that seemed to be a loophole that "theocratic stategists" may well use to give themselves wiggle room to evade the spirit of the recommendations that incidents be reported.. first:.
clause 4: the total [income of the trust] for 2007/8 was 6, 006, expenditure was 9, 205.. now see what is in clause 34:.
Has anybody heard more about the Porter case?
HB
i'm thinking that if all the governing body members all died at once, it would disprove this whole "the governing body are the faithful and discreet slave" business once and for all.. the faithful and discreet slave, according to watchtower teaching, will continue to exist into the time of the end.
so if the governing body all die at once, that means they ain't the faithful and discreet slave.. they need more youngish gb members quick!.
The July 15 WT says that all the annointed will be taken to heaven between the out break of the Great Tribulation and Armageddy.
12 000 people cannot die of natural causes all together in a SHORT time. Some of these are young in their 40s.
So God either KILLS them and instantaneously resurrects them, or like Christ on the mount of Olives, they will be caught away in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Jesus rose up, then a cloud caught him from sight.
HB
has anybody noticed in many recent watchtowers that christ is now said to have "turned his attention to the earth in 1914.".
unlike the 60's they do not say christ "came" in 1914. the "proclaimers book " p137 says the bible students came to discern that "christ did not return, (even invisibly), in 1914.".
the way is now paved.
Every point in the spoof article I wrote, except for finally putting 1914 in the bin has been printed in recent Witchtower magazines.
(Hamstergod revealed it to me all those years back!! His merciful cheekpouches are limitless!!)
DataD: "From Paradise lost to Paradise regained" p. 197: "This Tribulation [...] began in AD 1914."
Even the doubters are now coming round to the possibility that 1914 is being readied for the toilet.
(Then they can dump all the PROVEN-to-be-crap about 607 they want the dubbies to swallow.) Believe me, the two 607 articles were just damage limitation until 1914 is laid to rest.
Notice too how resurrecting the 1927 teaching on "this generation" made possible the more recent "noolite"
HB
post 2566 of 2566. since 7/7/2004.
this a typical example of how reading the verses in the bible over and over you get exactly the gist of what paul is saying.. 1thess 4: 14 - 17. those who are already dead, arise first to be with the lord.
those still alive when the time comes to join him in heaven are "caught away" to meet the lord in the air, and are "always with the lord" because as paul says "we shall not all fall asleep in death.".
Sure enough:
July Study edition 2013: The remaining annointed are taken to heaven between the Great Tribulation and the outbreak of Armageddon.
Let's just think: 12 000 or more people, some of them in their 40s all dying of natural causes simultaneously so they can be resurrected? God killing them? God catching them away to meet the Lord??
HB
the mill hill london, england, congregation was set up as a charitable trust in 1997.. www.charity-commission.gov.uk/library/investigations/pdfs/lonmill.pdf.
having read through the above link, i found a couple of disturbing statements that seemed to be a loophole that "theocratic stategists" may well use to give themselves wiggle room to evade the spirit of the recommendations that incidents be reported.. first:.
clause 4: the total [income of the trust] for 2007/8 was 6, 006, expenditure was 9, 205.. now see what is in clause 34:.
Have they made these Child protection Guidelines available, after THREE years?
HB