Posts by hamsterbait

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Rolf Furuli's accusation about VAT 4956 being tampered with?

by possiblepineapple in

i'm sorry but can someone here explain what this is about.

i saw someone on here called scholar on here saying that it somehow destroyed both coj and hermann hunger but how?

how does rolf furuli know that it was tampered with?

hamsterbait

The Insight books easily prove the date of jerusalems fall, simply by referencing the Kings going back from Belshazzar.

They cannot provide the names of even one missing king.

There is a lot of obfuscation around the reign of nebuchadnezzar, regnal v accession years, but they know they have successfully inculcated inability to think, ignorance and gullibility in the sheeples, so they can never crawl through the tangled web they put in those volumes. They cleverly removed passages in the Aid book that could give clues to their deception, with regard to Nineveh and the fall of Tyre.

I just got sick of their increasingly strident screaming "Listen obey or die"

HB

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How do JWs explain Egyptian society and culture surviving the flood?

by BU2B in

ok this is something have been wondering.

has anyone heard any explanation from jws as to how egypt, which even the wt admits existed 4600 years ago, was eliminated by a global flood but resumed a few short years later with the same culture, language etc.

the pyramids are older than the wt date for the flood.

hamsterbait

Anonymous -

You are sooo right on the question thingie.

There was a Question Box in a Kingdumb Misery a while back that forbade asking any question that the Gibberin Buddies had not already asked and dealt with themselves in the litterature.

Asking too many questions always brings you under suspicion in any police state.

Apogno - the Society has always said NOTHING on old light they hope the sheeples will forget. It doesnt mean they have replaced it with anything better.

For my part, having considered the science and history over many years, I cannot worship a "god" who will murder me because I know that what 8 popes in Crooklyn are saying is TRUE TRUE TRUE is actually LIES

HB

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VERY CONFIDENTIAL LETTER - Child abuse 10/01/2012

by WatchTower87 in

confidential letter child abuse http://adf.ly/auxbu.

to all bodies of elders.

the congregation secretary should arrange for this letter to be retained in the congregation permanent file of policy letters.

hamsterbait

They are not concerned that a MINOR is a "willing " participant??

WTF?

The courts have long rejected the defence that a youngster below age of consent was "gagging" for it.

If you do it with a minor it is a crime - no matter how much you were begged or coerced. CRIME - therefore, like murder, it should be reported!

There is one case on Silentlambs.org, where a little girl was molested, and the elders actually wanted to know if she had "led him on." (Obviously the little slut was gagging for it)

But then the infamous "Murder Letter" to a Florida congo shows that in Witchtower la la Land even taking a life can be hushed up.

Also - bear in mind that if a molestor moves to another congo, the Beth Hell decides whether or not he is a "known" child molestor ("predator"), and decides whether the elduhs should tell the next congregation or NOT(!!) So they have it in their hands to protect the children of oblivious parents at another kingdumb hell or NOT.

Sorry - I amend my criticism somewhat - paragraph 13 says the elders should meet with the parents of minor children and warn them of the danger. This never happened before.

HB

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Number of anointed partakers in new yearbook?

by JWOP in

i haven't seen the 2014 yearbook on the jw site yet.

i'm looking to see if the number of partakers has increased again (as it has for many years now).

anyone have a scan of it yet?.

hamsterbait

The annual report has always said "Memorial PARTAKERS" worldwide, as they have always said not everybody who thinks they are annointed actually are.

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JW morale reaching new low

by kneehighmiah in

jw
friends

many friends i've spoken with are becoming discouraged.

because of this it's becoming tempting to privately share my views with friends, but i know this is still too dangerous.

most witnesses in my circle are intelligent free thinkers.

hamsterbait

SFPW -

Very true. At one time there was maybe one person here and there in the circuit who everybody knew as a nut job.

Maybe one in a congregation.

Now I feel like I am in a room with mental patients on day release ("let outs" as mental health workers call them)

Talking to these LET OUTS with their ridiculous obsessions with demons, diet and depressions makes me feel like I am in a a Twighlight Zone Limboland.

And yes - nowadays most normal people work hard during the day, and play hard in their free time - so you only ever meet misfits and drop outs with some crisis going on. There is a brochure to hit everybody's weakness.

HB

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Death Of Print Update

by metatron in

jw
friends

http://gawker.com/new-york-magazine-begins-to-give-up-on-print-1474820408.

little by little....... print media is dying.

i understand the head of buzzfeed asserted that 'there are no new newspaper subscribers being born', statistically speaking.. metatron.

hamsterbait

I am sure that once cheap easily available BOOKS came along, you had diehards saying there was no pleasure like curling up in bed with a good minstrel.

Culrling up in bed with a book is dying. Youngsters now have no hesitation in using new technologies.

The "BOOK" is set to become a luxury item, for pleasure in the quality of printing paper and presentation.

Think of all the trees that are not going to be cut down and pulped - it has to be a good thing in the long run.

Incidentally - did anybody notice how the Kindle when it first came out was shaped like the reader Janeway in Startrek Voyager was always holding?

HB

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Why remove John 8:1-11 in the NWT if these verses speak highly of Jesus

by I_love_Jeff in

i understand these verses were removed in the nwt as well as some other bibles because they were added later & considered uninspired.

jesus protected an adultress so why remove it?

it fits in nicely with his teachings, does it not?

hamsterbait

Haven't these verses bevome part of the Bible by general consent, even though they are found sometimes in the other gospel manuscripts??

Yet the Witchtower insists that "the body of Christian Litterature THAT HAS BECOME PART OF THE BIBLE" is authority. Yes - they actually printed that in a WT study a while back. (You'll need to search as I dont have the lit anymore - too afraid of demonic attack....

Of course they mean their heaps of steaming WT magazines and books, most of which is obsolete and self contradicting.

Yet they can edit the Bible. Try doing that with a WT volume and see how fast they DF you!!

HB

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Jehovah's Witness church elders who refused to comment on a child abuse scandal did not "try to prevent a prosecution."

by Sol Reform in

http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/article/90520/police-chiefs-letter-ignites-fresh-jehovahs-witness-child-abuse.

police chief's letter ignites fresh jehovah's witness child abuse rowby kevin donald location: washington.

gordon leighton.

hamsterbait

But but but but-

The Watchtower has always said they HAVE NO CLERGY CLASS!!!!

So how can they claim clergy penitent privilege - especially as this is defined as between the clergyman and his parishioner and DOES NOT INVOLVE ANOTHER PARTY to the info???

This was shot down in US courts, as the WT requires elders to inform Beth Hell of all confessions to sin or crime, thus nullifyong any so - called "clergy privilege."

Two faced a$$holes.

HB

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Quotes to discourage JWs from researching WT history?

by JWOP in

are there any direct quotes from the watchtower's literature that discourages investigation into their past doctrines and practices?.

hamsterbait

On the "Millions now Living" talk:

There is a recording of Freddie Franz later on giving a talk, where he said that "MAY" never die was changed to "WILL" never die because the proof of what they were saying was irrefutable.

Go find it yourself and listen.

Oh - and the "Faith in Action" DVD is dishonest. Compare the photo in Proclaimers book of the stage at Cedar Point in 1919 with the video.

The Photo of the stage in the book shows the platform surrounded by American Flags. These are airbrushed out in the video. WHY?

One thing that still sickens me is the way jdubs lie to themselves and others, and the way their memories automatically delete and update - rather like the Stargate episode.

hb

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Rolf Furuli's accusation about VAT 4956 being tampered with?

by possiblepineapple in

i'm sorry but can someone here explain what this is about.

i saw someone on here called scholar on here saying that it somehow destroyed both coj and hermann hunger but how?

how does rolf furuli know that it was tampered with?

hamsterbait

Furuli is a teacher of languages in Sweden, I believe.

He is not qualified to evalute the astronomical data. (Which backs up 587)

He is not qualified to assert that tablets have been tampered with, and NOT consult an EXPERT (that means somebody with credetials to prove he can be trusted)

Furuli is a JDUB. He knows that to disagree with the eight popes will get him DF, and he will lose all his friends and family.