One CO I remember said if you wanted to approach him with a problem - dot be shy, then quoted the scripture "we are not gods merely men like yourselves".
I could barf, but that would be a waste of good puke.
"do you realize how much of a privelge it is to enjoy the visit of the circuit overseer?
they are appointed by the governing body who in turn are apointed by jesus and holy spirit.
so you have a great privilege when we visit your congregation, because it is the same thing as having jesus visit you.
One CO I remember said if you wanted to approach him with a problem - dot be shy, then quoted the scripture "we are not gods merely men like yourselves".
I could barf, but that would be a waste of good puke.
besides it being pseudoscience, what interests me about this is that even though it's something to do with the "qi" energy flowing in our bodies, that wasn't a problem for some members of my family or a special pioneer i knew.. new study exposes acupuncture as pseudoscience.
Seaparation _
Remember too that when anaesthetics were first mooted they were viewed as placebos and a con. Rejcted by the establishment along with antiseptic concepts, which were laughed down.
Blood transfusions too were mocked. now if you dont want one you are a fool. Once you were bled for disease, if you didnt want it you were a fool. If you refused tartar emetics you were a fool.
Medicine is one of the most conservative and unadventurous of the sciences. Every truly revolutionary step forward has been trashed by the establishment.
Only by going to China and getting a full degree in medicine there would you have any real ability to evaluate a treatment that is used in MAINSTREAM medicine.
Oh and I JUST LOOKED AT THE PAGE AGAIN AND SAW:
"Hosptial food is not just bad it is also BAD FOR YOU" can we have some research on this much more vital issue than hot flushes and acupucture? Of course using double blind and placebo groups.
besides it being pseudoscience, what interests me about this is that even though it's something to do with the "qi" energy flowing in our bodies, that wasn't a problem for some members of my family or a special pioneer i knew.. new study exposes acupuncture as pseudoscience.
PRAY TELL:
Were the patients in the HOUSTON double blind test charged the full fee for treatment, even if they got the pretend placebo?
How many American patients are being charged the FULL WHACK for surgery or drug therapy etc, and not told they are being given a sugar pill?
How is this right in the land of the free??
If I went into hospital, I am not sure I would even trust the doctors anymore - Am I getting a proven treatment, a new treatment that could kill me in the experiment, or a bit of sugar?????? And MY money pays for the experiment on ME!!??
HB
besides it being pseudoscience, what interests me about this is that even though it's something to do with the "qi" energy flowing in our bodies, that wasn't a problem for some members of my family or a special pioneer i knew.. new study exposes acupuncture as pseudoscience.
Fulltime - I know an acupucturist :
The exams are very critical - Miss ONE point and you fail totally and have to resit. Also if you miss a point by a cm the patient would be in PAIN.
Try sticking pins in yourself and see!!
separating of the sheep and the goats you can live forever in paradise on earth, 1982, p 183, states: since christ returned and sat down on his heavenly throne, all humankind has been on judgment... during the presentjudgment people are being separated as goats to christs left hand or as sheep to his right.. the wt of jan. 1, 1988, p 16, confirmed this: yes, all mankind is being scrutinized to see who are sheep and who are goats.... the messages are broadcast by human mouthpieces under angelic direction.
a person is identified as a sheep or as a goat by the way he responds to the angelic messages.
during this 20 th century, only jehovahs witnesses have cooperated with the angels in this vital work.. .
YEAH right - and the Babble Students taught that Christs second presence began in 1874, and he sat on his throne to judge in 1914.
So NOW we have that his second presence began in 1914, and he will sit on his throne to judge sometime VERY VERY VERY VERY soon.
I remember a Rag from 1985/86, "Listen to this message, Please DEAR READER for Armageddon is SO VERY NEAR "
Blondie will find it. I no longer have any of this trash in the house.
separating of the sheep and the goats you can live forever in paradise on earth, 1982, p 183, states: since christ returned and sat down on his heavenly throne, all humankind has been on judgment... during the presentjudgment people are being separated as goats to christs left hand or as sheep to his right.. the wt of jan. 1, 1988, p 16, confirmed this: yes, all mankind is being scrutinized to see who are sheep and who are goats.... the messages are broadcast by human mouthpieces under angelic direction.
a person is identified as a sheep or as a goat by the way he responds to the angelic messages.
during this 20 th century, only jehovahs witnesses have cooperated with the angels in this vital work.. .
In view of the new understanding of sheep and goats, what will happen to all those who died between 1919 and the new 1990s understanding without any "scriptural" hope of a resurrection. as they died judged as goats. Will they remain dead? Will recent fatalities be resurrected?
Yet every witless I knew laughed when the RC changed their teachings on Purgatory and Hell, even though the RC qouted the light gets brighter in Proverbs, and explained that God had progressively revealed his will in History.
What will happen to those sent to Hell for eating meat on Friday the WTBTS laughed. They went to heaven of course.
Its all a crock.
HB
ok third rant since last night.
a "demonstration" was given on how to give some brochures and in this demo it starts:.
"hi im suchandsuch and im one of jehovahs witnesses".
I just checked that verse in Isaiah too, and it in NO WAY resembles the quote at the beginning of this thread.
KNOX and the NWT do not say it.
Which translation says this?
As for "If you did believe in God" Which effing god do they mean? Zeus, Wotan Baal. Actually If I believed in the Witch tower god he would be capricious jealous genocidal petty irascible vengeful infanticidal racist and a mass murderor long before Hitler Stalin or Mao, anti logic pro lies (of the WTBTS) deceitful, unreliable, and unable to communicate clearly his will to the 8 popes.
HB
besides it being pseudoscience, what interests me about this is that even though it's something to do with the "qi" energy flowing in our bodies, that wasn't a problem for some members of my family or a special pioneer i knew.. new study exposes acupuncture as pseudoscience.
OH and I forgot "QI" means energy, it is not a type of energy. Dont nerves use ELECTRICAL ENERGY? It took the west long enought to find that out too.
besides it being pseudoscience, what interests me about this is that even though it's something to do with the "qi" energy flowing in our bodies, that wasn't a problem for some members of my family or a special pioneer i knew.. new study exposes acupuncture as pseudoscience.
So how do we dismiss MAINSTREAM doctors in China performing surgery using acupuncture instead of aneasthetics.
WHO exactly did this study, who was it funded by and what alternative were the (nodoubt) pharmaceuticals firms pushing as an alternative?
Acupuncture certainly alters the brain's perception of the body. it has been used for bowel problems and depression, very effectively.
It is a discipline so old it was being practised in China when we in the west still thought that leeches would balance the four humors.
The energy flow theory behind it may not really be the explanation, but western doctors dont understand it either.
the 1997 wt, 4/15 page 26 is about weddings and more rules the wt tries to enforce to take the fun out of even weddings.
"while a disfellowshipped person could be allowed to attend the talk at the kingdom hall, the watchtower of april 15, 1984, said: it would be unfitting to have in the wedding party people who are disfellowshipped or whose scandalous life-style grossly conflicts with bible principles.
- isn't that funny?
They have already stated that the body of Christian Litterature has "become part of the Bible (!!)" - So they can quote it with the same authority as scripture.