Posts by Bang

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Man, after all, creates gods in his own image.

by Bleep in

this is why i like to help those come to an accurate knowledge in the first place.

those that agree that there has been so many god's that have been worshiped can post here.

satan is behind it all of course.

Bang

Yep,

That's exactly why the jw god

requires you to earn your way
has 'news' that comes with an IF (it's not even news, but a deal with an image)
can be doing the right thing and be uncaring and uncharitable all at the same time
wants to burn everyone who insults their 'intelligence' which shames their grandiosity
requires physical appearance as necessary to impress converts (more people like them)
blames the 'wicked system' for issues of charity and honour
is into judging everyone for their sins all the time
doesn't care for people who are 'bad'
is continually impatient, and he wants to get everyone who doesn't think he's the smartest, very soon, real soon, anyday now, he's up in the sky, on his way...

I suppose that's why he's a plainly avoided bundle of dreamed up bad news and lies, here to impose his will on those who are supposed to be under the thumb and not meant to have a truly free will.

Bang

And on the portrayal - Satan is easily seen as more undesirable - the jw god has the character of the devil in the image of the elders - arrogant though completely in the dark, due to the prime importance of maintaining pride - chained there in a sense, not just unable to let go as with the average jo, but held tight by fear of loss and shame, desire for reward, and the pride of having earnt their way.

Edited by - Bang on 22 July 2002 1:1:19

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Are Witnesses Locusts?

by jgnat in

i was amazed to discover that faithful witnesses are the locusts of revelation fame.

but reading the description of the locust, i can find some similarities.. .

many orthoptera are serious pests of vegetable and grain crops.

Bang

Why are they proud to be

a) the persecutors of those who have not been sealed by the Holy Spirit

b) really proud types (like horses) from the darkness of the pit

c) allowed to hurt people

d) not allowed to eat the anything green such as sheep's food

Is there something I'm not quite getting here?

Bang

Oh, and their king is the angel of the pit, the 'ruined' or 'lost' one?

There's gotta be something I'm not getting here. Are they that desperate to be seen as grandiose ?

Edited by - Bang on 18 July 2002 3:7:20

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Many more pedaphiles in the churches with reason

by Bleep in

there are many many more pedophiles in the churches.

before making accusations that jehovahs people are the religion of child abusers look at the other churches.

1. the priests that they have can not marry.

Bang

quotes

since they (JWs) are no different from any other group/religion.

I strongly resent the implication that jws are no different from any other group/religion. In my examination of jwism it has become clear to me that as a group they are considerably more arrogant when confronted by plain truth than most peoples are. Aditionally, they very much stand out for delivering a prolifery of dead works, providing meaningless words to the hungry and sick. If I am confronted by someone who is a practising jw, I naturally consider that the person I am dealing with is deluded and spiritually sick if not dead (perhaps suffering from a mood disorder) and that it is likely they will lie to me and my family, and care less or perhaps be downright nasty while all the while pretending to be 'nice'. I thank God that do not expect this from other groups or the population at large.

Bang

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Would/Do you wear a Cross around your neck ??

by Prisca in

jw
friends

after all that we had drummed into us about not the cross, and particularly about not venerating the symbol itself, i have been wondering about this issue.. so, what are your views about wearing a cross around your neck ?

is it just a fashion accessory, or does it mean something to you ?.

inquiring minds would like to know

Bang

I have a crucifix blessed by the pope, up on the wall, a crucifix embroidered onto my university uniform, rosary beads with a crucifix nearby and the front of my house has a crucifix shaped into the natural design, but no, I don't wear one usually.

Bang

29

the ultimate "Question Box" question

by lastcall in

july 2002 question box : " what should we bear in mind when using cellular telephones and electronic pagers?

this in my mind is the ultimate question in the sense that it really shows how rediculessly micro-managed we were in this religion.

disect this one for a moment.

Bang

Pistoff,

... is it possible more might be ATTRACTED to the org instead of being battered by it....................Please someone knock me out.

You must already be unconscious. "Somebody wake me up", sounds more like the remedy.

Bang

83

CULT CULT CULT

by minimus in

i have read many opinions about jw's being a cult.a dictionary describes cult as a system of religious beliefs and ritual .. some have viewed even major religions as a cult, such as the roman catholic church.based upon webster almost anybody or anything that is viewed as ritualistic could be said to be cultic.when someone tries to negate jehovah's witnesses by using.

the "cult" word, i believe they are not seeing that many others could legitimately be regarded as a cult or at least "cultic".therefore the word loses alot of meaning.

some have said that the watchtower is a cult because of the control factor.

Bang

Bleep,

Most people don't kill so they can obey a man, aside from themselves that is. Most people willing to kill (which includes withholding your worldly goods) do it so that they can have something that they want. Cain wanted God's favour enough to care less about his brother - so it is with the wtbts.

Bang

42

Before you open that door....

by Bona Dea in

things that you definitely will not learn upfront: (and again, this is just a few...).

fight against independent thinking.

6-8-1986, page.9 would that all were prophets!.

Bang

Bleep

I am sure if this was Gods world he would have it easy to live.

This is true jw thinking, and their excuse.

Ever wonder why there are still hunger pain and death?

I can look to the nearest kh to know well why 'the poor are always with us'.

It's so easy to point the finger at jws that it disgusts me to be involved in it - I would much prefer to rev up those who can at least call a spade a spade. That's an ozzy saying about honesty - one who can call a spade a spade (it's not a shovel).

Bang

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JW response to BBC program online

by freeborg in

jw
friends

below are a couple of coments from the bbc web page, youwill notice the typical jw response.

many more listed use the link below .

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/panorama/newsid_855000/855727.stm.

Bang

It's good to see that you can call a spade a spade now Matty.

"Let your yes be yes and your no be no, all else is from the evil one"

Bang

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WT on the Ropes, UK letter

by belbab in

wt on the ropes.

today, sunday, july 14 has been a very eventful day here on the board.

we have seen the letter posted that was read out at kingdom halls in britain.

Bang

"before we could qualify for membership in Jehovahs spirit-directed organization"

I understand from that, that their not big on preaching about grace - since they consider that they can buy their own way - now that they found the salesmen that is.

Bang

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Major holes in J.R. Brown's Panorama response

by comment in

jw
friends

1) brown states: "you have been told that here in the united states we have compiled a list of 23,720 names of child abusers.

that is false.

first of all, the total number of names in our records is considerably lower.

Bang

ONLY been accused of child abuse within God's loving most pure org. - well something stinks.

Bang