Baptized, inactive for about 10 years. Shunned by everyone except mom and dad.
The elders said it was OK for mom and dad to talk to me, they need me to help them since they are aged.
Way to go Honesty !!
i'm a baptized member considered ''inactive.
'' i don't hand in ''service reports'',attend maybe 3 meetings a month,ain't signed up for the ministry school and will never attend any convention or the ''book study.
'' always make the ''memorial.
Baptized, inactive for about 10 years. Shunned by everyone except mom and dad.
The elders said it was OK for mom and dad to talk to me, they need me to help them since they are aged.
Way to go Honesty !!
my first post was a few days ago now, and finally my heart has stopped pounding whenever i log on.. :-).
so, i have been in the truth all my life, 3rd generation witness, never left, never been in trouble, pioneered for years, and am a respected member of my congregation.
at the moment.
If anyone can see a flaw in my logic, please tell me... I'm really interested in hearing other ideas on this...
No flaw.
It's hard to trust your own instincts, when you have been taught all your life to trust someone elses.
Jesus had an idea that I like:
Mark 7: 14
Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15 Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.' "
17 After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 "Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? 19 For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")
during the time of the israelites, non-israelites with no connection to the nation could have a relationship with jehovah; for example, job.. there also appears no lasting benefit to being an israelite, as all people will receive a resurrection.. the watchtower uses the israelites as evidence that jehovah needs an earthly organization.
however, the only real purpose of the israelite nation that i can see was it led to christ.
is the nation of isreal really an indication jehovah requires an earthly organization?.
Good question, to me it seemed like being an Israelite was nothing but trouble.
There also appears no lasting benefit to being an Israelite, as all people will receive a resurrection..
Seems unfair, but then again maybe the 144,000 are chosen from the 12 tribes of Israel like the bible says.
Was there any benefit to being an Israelite?
No benefit after Christ. No benefit in world war II. History remembers them as killing Jesus!
...in all fiction:jealous and proud of it; petty, unjust, unforgiving, control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty, ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevent bully.
", says richard dawkins in the god delusion p51.
he goes on to say, "those of us schooled from infancy in his ways can become desensitized to their horror".. would you agree?.
I want a God on my side who will kick some ass.
Who wants a pussy God ?
they receive a ressurection like christ's don't they?
why don't their bodies dematerialize like christ's did?.
i've been out of jw land so long, i forget when does the 144,000 ressurection start?.
This was something my father-in law (now deceased) always would bring up, he was disfellowshipped and I was still a dub.
He would say "until I see their bodies disappear I don't believe they went to heaven".
1918 huh, 90 years in heaven preparing to rule, what's that all about ?
never believing that a foreskin was a birth defect, i left my sons intact...( called genital integrity in some circles).
what, if anything, makes circumcision less of a mutilation than fgm?.
dont kill the questioner!!
I don't think most guys need their penis to be more sensitive by leaving extra skin there . Am I right or not ?
i was horrified by the process
I would never subject my newborn baby to such horrible pain, whether he would remember it or not. What kind of parent would want to do that
This kind of parent. My son had the plastibell no surgery. I can not believe your doctor didn't give you other options ? ! ? !
The circumcision may be performed using surgical clamp techniques or with a special disposable plastic device called a Plastibell.
For adults see link
the boy was about 7 years old.
' he looked at his son and didn't answer.
'can you shun this boy?
Loved your response.
Thanks for sharing.
they receive a ressurection like christ's don't they?
why don't their bodies dematerialize like christ's did?.
i've been out of jw land so long, i forget when does the 144,000 ressurection start?.
They receive a ressurection like Christ's don't they?
Why don't their bodies dematerialize like Christ's did?
I've been out of JW land so long, I forget when does the 144,000 ressurection start?
this is an epiphany i had about 5 years ago that forever changed my attutude towards the bible, the god of the old testament (and new testament) and all religion in general.
esp since the borg hold him up as a hero of faithfulness and one of the great faithful men of old.
it was quite a jolt to my worldview when that realization hit me like a frikkin bus.. thoughts?.
So you're saying Samson was a Japenese Muslim Kamikaze ? BANZAI !!!!!!!!!!!
I always thought Samson was a suitcase ?
Holy Crap that was hard to read ! I counted 30 variations of "Great day" used, ayyye carumba
great day of Jehovah, God's great day, Jehovah's day, day of Jehovah
Is the day 6 billion people get annihilated great?
Jesus as the “Son of man”. I thought he was the son of Jehovah?
Interesting thought
Love for God and for our neighbor keeps us active as Christian ministers and thus helps to prepare us for the great day of Jehovah.
I thought it was the fear of becoming bird food !
In Paradise, resurrected ones will be able to fill in some gaps in our knowledge of the past.
I don't want to talk to Enoch. I want to talk to Chucky and da Judge. There's tons of rumors about them I would like to get settled.