I like this version better than the JW version.
http://www.jwinfoline.com/Documents/Christmas/Was_the_star_of_bethlehem_satans_star.htm
I haven't seen my avatar move yet.
moomanchu
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moomanchu
Guy: I'll go to the meeting if you go out with me.
Girl: Oh please, talk to the hand. I need to study my Watchtower tonight.
Come back and see me when you make m.s.
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this from march 15 tower
by therevealer inis this just to inane for words.
most of the lumber looks sawn rather than hewn.
are they planning or arguing?
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moomanchu
If they are so fierce why wouldn't they enter through the gate
Simple, no shirts no service.
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Are former Witnesses JERKS at times?
by free2beme ini recently came across something online, in which someone was talking to the society to complain about another 'active' witness, not getting in trouble.
what i learned, as i listened and read the follow-up.
was that the person calling was a former witness, disfellowshipped for something they thought was unfair.
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moomanchu
Let me get this.
A former witness is a jerk because they want equal treatment of people from the Watchtower.
I would say he is naive not a jerk.
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Are they really that bad???
by anonymous4 inhad a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .
is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?
:-).
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moomanchu
Go for it!!!
But if you ever change your mind about it you will be royally f'ed.
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What % of current JWs sincerely believe Armageddon will come within the next 30 years?
by jj123jj123 injust to give you a little background about myself, i was a born-in, i'm in my late 20's now, i faded away a few years ago after researching the history of the wtbs on the internet.
my fade was aided by moving away with my job(i definately feel lucky about that).
eventually, i had discussions with a couple of my closer jw friends about why i no longer believed in the wtbs.
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moomanchu
Yeah, Armaggeddon has to happen in my lifetime it just has to.
The death rate of humans is 100%.
Think about it.
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Video: Jehovah's Witness Elders Lie and Call Police
by leavingwt in(via free minds).
jehovah's witness elders lie and call police.
on october 31, 2010 jehovah's witnesses elders lie when asked by charles huff, also a jehovah's witness, if they shun ex-members of the jehovah's witnesses' religion.
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moomanchu
Loved the video.
Looking forward to the next one.
It's called a taste of your own medicine.
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How Many Demons Are There ?
by moomanchu inmy attempt at answering.. first how many angels are there?.
revelation 5:11; .
then i looked and heard the voice of many angels, .
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moomanchu
The mention of a third in Revalation was explained to be just symbolic of a large number but not meaning it really is a third.
Ohhh I see the ole arbitrary symbolic literal game.
So a third is symbolic kinda just like the number 144,000, ohhh now I see.
Why is Satan so stupid to go up against Jehovah with such a small amount of allies?
Also I made a mistake in the amount of fallen angels. (if taken literally)
There are 101,000,000 good angels worshiping God . Sooooo
Total of amount of angels bad + good would need to actually be 151,500,000 .
50,500,000 demons! Yeah even more demons
Whatever
From JW Revelation it Grand Climax
The dragon has authority also in the spirit realm. With his tail, he "drags a third of the stars of heaven." Stars can represent angels. (Job 38:7) Mention of "a third" would emphasize that a considerable number of angels have been misled by Satan. Once these came under his control, there was no escape for them. They could not return to God’s holy organization. They became demons, dragged along, as it were, by Satan their king, or ruler. (Matthew 12:24) Satan also cast them down to the earth. This no doubt refers to Noah’s day before the Flood, when Satan induced the disobedient sons of God to go down to earth and cohabit with the daughters of men. As a punishment, these "angels that sinned" have been thrown by God into the prisonlike condition called Tartarus.—Genesis 6:4; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 6.
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Thus, two opposing organizations have come clearly into view—Jehovah’s heavenly organization as pictured by the woman and Satan’s demonic organization that challenges God’s sovereignty. The great issue of sovereignty must be settled. But how? Satan, still dragging the demons along with him, is like a vicious beast of prey eyeing a potential victim. He is waiting for the woman to give birth. He wants to devour this expected infant because he knows that it poses an ominous threat to his continued existence and that of the world over which he exercises rulership.—John 14:30.
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How Many Demons Are There ?
by moomanchu inmy attempt at answering.. first how many angels are there?.
revelation 5:11; .
then i looked and heard the voice of many angels, .
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moomanchu
I just emptied my pockets and found 2 plus a hobgoblin.
Now if you could get the ones out of your head you'd be fine. lol
“The devil is a better theologian than any of us and is a devil still.”
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How Many Demons Are There ?
by moomanchu inmy attempt at answering.. first how many angels are there?.
revelation 5:11; .
then i looked and heard the voice of many angels, .
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moomanchu
My attempt at answering.
First how many angels are there?
Revelation 5:11; Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels,
numbering thousands upon thousands,
and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders.Dan 7:10;A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him:
thousand thousands ministered unto him,
and ten thousand times ten thousand stood
before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.1,000 X 1,000 = 1,000,000
10,000 X 10,000 = 100,000,000
Total 101,000,000 Angels
A third have fallen .
Revelation 12:4;
Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth.
The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth,
so that it might devour her child the moment he was born.3 / 101,000,000 =
33,666,666 Demons
That is a lot of demons, no wonder the JW are obsessed with them.
This whole 1/3 angels rebelling against God has always puzzled me.
Imagine if you are a carpenter and 1/3 of all the products you build are defects
What if you’re a manager and 1/3 of your department hates you.
Suppose you had 6 kids and 2 became criminals.Isn't it baffling that Jehovah the Almighty God doesn't have a better heavenly family?
btw isn't that a weird number that poped up for the amount of demons?