moomanchu
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Now I need to buy her an iPad for service?
by FadeToBlack inthe wife just got back from the service meeting tonight and she is pumped!
apparently, i need to buy her an ipad for field service.
they had the demos outlined in the km and she is really excited about it.
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Its All About Them Until We Remember Our First Name
by AllTimeJeff ini have been told by more then one person of my propensity to use the phrase "...it's all about them.
" when it comes to the governing body.
them and their authority that is.
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moomanchu
Good post.
I don't understand why JW's even call each other brother and sister .
They are not born again, therefore they are not spiritual brothers and sisters in christ.
imo
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Latest "Shun Your Family" Statement - Jan 2013 Study WT
by LostGeneration insolomon alluded to it yesterday in a thread, i found the online large print pdfs here, not sure where the regular version is yet.
here are the full paragraphs, grab your barf bags .
19 on the other hand, if you choose the path of resentment.
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moomanchu
It is amazing how they shift the blame of pain, devastation, loss, grief, guilt, and seperation. It's not our fault we are doing this to you!! Sick twisted reasoning! F'ed up to the max !
FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS 16 The bond between parent and child is so strong that Jehovah used that relationship to illustrate his own love for his people. (Isa. 49:15) It is normal, therefore, to be deeply grieved when a beloved family member leaves Jehovah. “I was devastated,” says one sister whose daughter was disfellowshipped. “I wondered, ‘Why did she leave Jehovah?’ I felt guilty, and I blamed myself.” 17 Jehovah understands your pain. He himself “felt hurt at his heart” when the first member of his human family, and later most people living before the Flood, rebelled. (Gen. 6:5, 6) It may be difficult for those who have never experienced such a loss to appreciate how devastating it can be. Nevertheless, it would be unwise to let the improper course of a disfellowshipped family member distance you from Jehovah. How, then, can you cope with the profound grief that arises when a family member leaves Jehovah? For suggestions, see pages 17-19 of the November 2011 issue of Awake! 16, 17. What grievous situation has afflicted many parents, and how do we know that Jehovah understands their pain? 18 Do not blame yourself for what happened. Jehovah has put a choice before humans, and each dedicated and baptized family member must “carry his own load” of responsibility. (Gal. 6:5) Ultimately, Jehovah holds the sinner—not you—responsible for his or her choice. (Ezek. 18:20) Also, do not blame others. Respect Jehovah’s arrangement for discipline. Take your stand against the Devil—not against shepherds who act to protect the congregation.—1 Pet. 5:8, 9. 19 On the other hand, if you choose the path of resentment toward Jehovah, you will distance yourself from him. Really, what your beloved family member needs to see is your resolute stance to put Jehovah above everything else —including the family bond. So to cope with the situation, be sure to maintain your own spirituality. Do not isolate yourself from your faithful Christian brothers and sisters. (Prov. 18:1) Pour out your feelings to Jehovah in prayer. (Ps. 62:7, 8) Do not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through e-mail. (1 Cor. 5:11) Stay absorbed in spiritual activities. (1 Cor. 15:58) The sister quoted above says, “I know that I must stay busy in Jehovah’s service and keep myself in a spiritually strong condition so that when my daughter does come back to Jehovah, I will be in a position to help her.” 20 The Bible says that love “hopes all things.” (1 Cor. 13: 4, 7) It is not wrong for you to entertain the hope that your loved one will return. Each year, many wrongdoers repent and come back to Jehovah’s organization. Jehovah does not begrudge their repentance. On the contrary, he is “ready to forgive.”—Ps. 86:5. 18. Why should parents not blame themselves if a child leaves Jehovah? 19, 20. (a) What can parents of disfellowshipped children do to cope with their grief? (b) What hope do such parents rightly entertain? -
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Best EZ 1 Liners to Say to Witnesses?
by LV101 inany suggestions?
attending an invite (strange we're invited but hoping to make it worth my while) but i don't want to suffer big consequences as i've already said enough wrong stuff.
i'm stuck reading hassan's ccmc book (about half way --- just don't have time and not into it).
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moomanchu
Do JW's donate blood?
No.
Do JW's accept blood fractions?
Yes.
Acts 20:35
35 In everything I have shown you that, by working hard, we must help the weak.
In this way we remember the Lord Jesus’ words: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-19-2012 WT Review (SERVICE)
by blondie ingods servants = only jws.
with the people of god rather.
dedicated servants of jehovah only jws.
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moomanchu
When Jehovah or Jesus speak to me directly as was the case with Noah, Moses, Jeremiah, Paul, and Jesus,
thats when I will decide what to do.
Sorry Watchtower Printing Company.
Noah also proclaimed Jehovah’s impending judgment. The apostle Peter calls him
“a preacher of righteousness,”
indicating that Noah strove to help his neighbors
appreciate the gravity of their situation.
How does preaching righteousness equal preaching impending judgement?
same ole same ole
thanks
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Jehovah's Witnesses tell me to shut up!.. (2012 Assembly)
by Snoozy infound this on you tube..i couldn't believe everyone just walked past her without talking to her..(except to tell her to shut up!
) i don't know what the sign said but there was also a guy singing hymns there..they just walked by and ignored him also.
unbelievable..where's the love for their fellow mankind?.
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moomanchu
At 4:10 a woman plays like she sooooo didn't see or hear him. lol
Funny how they ignore and then start laughing as they pass by.
They are masters at shunning and ridiculing all at the same time without saying a word.
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France paying Watchtower millions in illegal taxation
by moomanchu ini must admit the jw are good at getting and keeping their money.. france ordered to pay millions for illegal taxation of jehovahs witnesses.
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http://www.jw-media.org/.
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moomanchu
I must admit the JW are good at getting and keeping their money.
France ordered to pay millions for illegal taxation of Jehovah’s Witnesses
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Watchtower explains why it's NOT a Cult
by JWOP inhere is a youtube video showing a wt article trying to explain how it is not a cult, but contradicts itself and undoes their own reasoning:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2lac74n638.
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moomanchu
I knew they weren't a cult!
This proves it.
Thanks for the laughs.
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Beards
by ThomasK9 ini've been involved with the witnessess since 1976. my ex-wife was a baptised sister who fell in with the wrong crowd and left the fruth when she should have been disfellowshipped.
thats another story.
after returning home in 1980 from working in the u.s. navy, i contacked her parents and in 1982 started studying for ernest.
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moomanchu
BEARDS:
At the start of his presidency, Rutherford would praise Charles Taze Russell, even stating that CTR was leading the Bible Students personally while being "beyond the vail"(from the heavens after his death). So for a while the Judge promoted remembering CTR. The reason he did this is because the brothers at Bethel still looked to CTR as their spiritual leader and held him in very high esteem.
In time Rutherford established himself without question as the new spiritual leader and president of the society.
However like first century Christians who followed different brothers like Apollos or Paul, there were still brothers at Bethel who still looked to CTR as their spiritual leader. The Judge decided the brothers were focusing on CTR to much (he called it creature worship). The Judge didn't want CTR becoming an icon, so he decided to try and get the brothers to forget about CTR.
Rutherford was aware that many members of the Bible students emulated CTR by growing beards. So in and effort to get CTR out of the consciousness of the Bible Students, the Judge ruled that beards were not allowed in the Bethel families. In a careful plan the Judge cut off the beards of Jesus, and Adam in WTS illustrations to reinforce the idea of no beards. Suddenly male facial hair was "un-Theocratic." Brothers were even told they couldn’t grow a mustache unless they wanted to lose there "privileges." The Bethel rules quickly trickled down to the congregations and the rest is history. The funny thing is if you ask a JW why they can't grow a beard there usual response is “we don't want to be associated with the hippie movement or uncleanness of the 60's”. They don't even realize that the beard ban was made way back in the 20’s. It wasn't until the 70's that the mustache rule was relaxed, this being because of the great popularity of facial hair in the 60's and 70's. The beard ban however still lingers on. The WT yearbook:yb74 97-8 Germany (Part One) *** It was now possible to print TheWatchTower in our own factory. The first issue printed was that of July 15, 1923. Some three or four weeks later a large flatbed press with automatic feed was set up and work began on the first volume of StudiesintheScriptures. Right afterward the book TheHarpofGod was printed on the same machine. But more equipment was needed. For that reason Brother Balzereit asked Brother Rutherford for permission to buy a rotary press. Brother Rutherford saw the necessity and agreed, but on one condition. He had noticed thatover the years Brother Balzereit had grown a beard very similar to the one that had been worn by Brother Russell. His example soon caught on, for there were others who also wanted to look like Brother Russell. This could give rise to a tendency toward creature worship, and Brother Rutherford wanted to prevent this. So during his next visit, within hearing of all the Bible House family, he told Brother Balzereit that he could buy the rotary press but only on the condition that he shave off his beard. Brother Balzereit sadly agreed and afterward went to the barber. During the next few days there were several cases of mistaken identity and some funny situations because of the "stranger" who was sometimes not recognized by his fellow workers. Mystery solved
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Greetings from Candace Conti
by AndersonsInfo incandace asked me to tell you thank you for all your kind expressions of support.
this really means a lot to her.
she wants you to know that she is coping well with all the stress and excitement, even though she's had years of anger and frustration because of being abused for so long, first by the molester, and then by the wt.
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moomanchu
Candace,
I love that you prevailed against the Watchtower machine. Way to go!
I sent out your story to all my JW "friends" and family.
Isn't there a scripture that says that things done in darkness will come out in the light?
Their policies of protection of paedophiles will now be paraded out for all to see!
Quandry, were you thinking of this scripture?
Mark 4: 22 For everything that is hidden will eventually be brought into the open, and every secret will be brought to light.