Posts by moomanchu

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ABOUT BEARDS AND JW,s ?

by moomanchu in

this is a jw friendly version of one of farkels posts that i plagarized.. it's useful to send to jw,s who are clueless as to why they can not have facial hair.. .

there was a falling away from the bible students after the disappointment of 1914 and the death of ctr in 1916.for the first approximately 10 years during his leadership of the bible students, rutherford would laud and praise ctr and even stated that ctr was leading the movement personally while being "beyond the vail"( from the heavens after his death).

so for a time the judge actually promoted remembering ctr to retain followers.

moomanchu

I'm savin those pics.

where did they come from?

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So much for my fade

by LeftBehind in

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i've always known deep down that i would not be able to fade because well my family would not let me and were keeping such close tabs on me i was bound to be found out sooner or later.

that day has finally come.

i was "caught" associating with my apostate brother.

moomanchu

You could probably still stay in by just playing their stupid little game.

Act repentant and all that if it's worth it.

decisions, decisions Good Luck

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ABOUT BEARDS AND JW,s ?

by moomanchu in

this is a jw friendly version of one of farkels posts that i plagarized.. it's useful to send to jw,s who are clueless as to why they can not have facial hair.. .

there was a falling away from the bible students after the disappointment of 1914 and the death of ctr in 1916.for the first approximately 10 years during his leadership of the bible students, rutherford would laud and praise ctr and even stated that ctr was leading the movement personally while being "beyond the vail"( from the heavens after his death).

so for a time the judge actually promoted remembering ctr to retain followers.

moomanchu

Here in the states I had a beard in the mid 80's no one complained but no privleges were allowed.

I work with a JW and about one month ago he said an elder told him his mustache was getting a little long and that the rule at bethel is it shouldn't go past the lower lip.

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Is this the ultimate question to ask a JW?

by jwfacts in

people always ask what subject they should raise with their jw relatives.

the problem is, what is important to you is often of no consequence to me.

no one knows what will be the issue to change a relatives mind.

moomanchu

As another poster has said , there isn't a "killer question" to ask JWs - nobody asked me one in over 30 years of field service

I agree there isn't one question to fit all JW,s.

I think you need to find the one issue that the individual has with the organisation that bothers them,

even if it is a trival issue.

Show interest in that particular issue and........ is this starting to sound like the service meeting?

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ABOUT BEARDS AND JW,s ?

by moomanchu in

this is a jw friendly version of one of farkels posts that i plagarized.. it's useful to send to jw,s who are clueless as to why they can not have facial hair.. .

there was a falling away from the bible students after the disappointment of 1914 and the death of ctr in 1916.for the first approximately 10 years during his leadership of the bible students, rutherford would laud and praise ctr and even stated that ctr was leading the movement personally while being "beyond the vail"( from the heavens after his death).

so for a time the judge actually promoted remembering ctr to retain followers.

moomanchu

This is a JW friendly version of one of farkels posts that I plagarized.

It's useful to send to JW,s who are clueless as to why they can not have facial hair.

There was a falling away from the Bible Students after the disappointment of 1914 and the death of CTR in 1916.For the first approximately 10 years during his leadership of the Bible Students, Rutherford would laud and praise CTR and even stated that CTR was leading the movement personally while being "beyond the vail"( from the heavens after his death). So for a time the Judge actually promoted remembering CTR to retain followers. If he had not lauded CTR at the very beginning, the society might have lost even more followers after JFR took over power.

As time past JFR came into his own as the new WT president.He established himself without question as the new book writer and spiritual leader and president. However like first century christians who would say they were followers of different brothers like Apollos or Paul, there were brothers at Bethel who still looked to CTR as their leader and held him in very high esteem. It was at this time that the Judge switched gears, it was time to get CTR out of the consciousness of the Bible Students. So JFR began a slow and careful plan to get the brothers to look to the Organization as gods instrument and not to CTR.

He was well aware that many male members of the Bible students emulated CTR by growing long beards. The Judge thus ruled that beards were "out" in the Bethel families. He cut off the beards of Jesus, Adam and satan in WTS illustrations. All of the sudden, naturally recurring male facial hair was "un-Theocratic." That "beard stigma" was still in place thirty years after his death! Brothers were even told they couldn’t grow a mustache unless they wanted to lose there "privileges." In the early 1970’s when long hair and beards and mustaches were to be found everywhere in the USA the WT relaxed their rules and allowed mustaches.

To this day beards still carry the un-theocratic stigma.

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Bethel Downsizing Spin

by Cellist in

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there's an article on e-watchman giving the latest spin.

i don't know how to cut and paste, but i hope everyone goes and checks it out.

it is truly nauseating.

moomanchu

Jill and Nathan..... sounds like another "Urban Legend"

I guarantee it's not.

Another take on this is many JW,s went to bethel counting on staying there till armagedon.

Guess what the 20 30 year old bethelite is now 50 60. What to do? We can't be running a nursing home up here let's put them out to field service . If we're lucky they'll find something else to do.

This is another corporate strategy, make it so miserable for the employee they quit, yeah no severance package.

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Interesting thought on the importance of the name Jehovah.

by PaNiCAtTaCk in

first off, i did not write this.

i found it on the net.

i think this guy made an interesting point.

moomanchu

An elder in our cong. made the point that if you call Jehovah "God or father" It was like calling your friends "man or lady" instead of using their name.

Later I thought do you want your children calling you by your name or do you want them to say dad or mom or father or mother.

Hey Bob can I go out and play?

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How old were you when you were baptized?

by moomanchu in

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reading hellriders topic made me wonder about this.. i waited till i was 21 because i was drinking alcohol as a youth and didn't want to get baptized while breaking the law.

man that is screwed up, seemed reasonable at the time.

moomanchu

Jesus waited till he was 30 why don't people imitate this?

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How old were you when you were baptized?

by moomanchu in

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reading hellriders topic made me wonder about this.. i waited till i was 21 because i was drinking alcohol as a youth and didn't want to get baptized while breaking the law.

man that is screwed up, seemed reasonable at the time.

moomanchu

By the way my wife was seventeen when she was baptized. I had something to do with that,

othewise she most likely wouldn't have.

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How old were you when you were baptized?

by moomanchu in

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reading hellriders topic made me wonder about this.. i waited till i was 21 because i was drinking alcohol as a youth and didn't want to get baptized while breaking the law.

man that is screwed up, seemed reasonable at the time.

moomanchu

Reading hellriders topic made me wonder about this.

I waited till I was 21 because I was drinking alcohol as a youth and didn't want to get baptized while breaking the law. Man that is screwed up, seemed reasonable at the time.