My opinion is fade. Avoid all the elders buggin you. Plus you don't lose family because you're spiritually weak and are doubting.
When you DA your still following their rules. (though it does give finality and a clean break)
i know this has probably been discussed before, but i would like to take a poll of your thoughts as to what you personally would do, disassociate yourself or just fade over time.
i've been in the process of "fading" myself since november of last year, (last meeting in january, and never going back).
i have been considering making it official though by formal letter of da.
My opinion is fade. Avoid all the elders buggin you. Plus you don't lose family because you're spiritually weak and are doubting.
When you DA your still following their rules. (though it does give finality and a clean break)
who but the jw's could be gleeful over the happenings in the middle east?
and the problems in n & s korea?
ammo for the doors i guess.
Isn't Jesus coming at a time when no one expects him?
Doesn't all of dubdom and christendom expect his return to be imminent?
`choose life to keep alive'.
christian--once.
israel chose to obey...willingly gave...their exclusive devotion.
SOS (same old s___)
Do you regularly read such thrilling accounts published in The Watchtower and meditate on them?
NO, I cannot. The excitement and thrill might give me a heart attack.
It's funny how the Watchtower has judged these people and granted them exemplary status,
worthy of imitating.
The Watchtower really needs to put out a modern bible of noted prophets and prophetesses.(spelling?)
"Read Gods word the Watchtower daily"
thanks b
moo
so my wife is pushing me to go out in the ministry this weekend for the special dc invite tract work.
i really do not want to go in fs, haven't been out in years.
i don't even plan on counting the time if i do end up going.
Go for the over slept idea excuse.
Do you and your wife drink? Have some beer or wine and have a fun late friday night, then let nature take its course.I like your idea of writing the web sites on the tract. Does the WT put their web site on the tract? Maybe you could cross that one out.
the august 2006 awake, makes the claim that there is no benefit to blood transfusion except in trauma, according to proffessor bruce spiess:.
there are few if any (medical) articles that supposrt transfusion actually improving outcome.
" in fact, he writes that many transufusions 'may do more harm than good in virtually every instance except trauma,' increasing 'the risk of pneumonia, infections, heart attacks and strokes.'.
Very informative thread thanks
I had to post the caption from the awake. My wife works in a medical lab and this is just to funny lol .
WT wisdom:
"Some medical workers are very cautious about coming into contact with blood"
Duhh really, boy if they're scared to touch it, I surely don't want it in my veins.
"i was put up against a wall the last years of my life, always depressed, hopeless and miserable.
even though i was married and had a family i was alone, no one to confide in, no one to turn to, always in fear that my doubt would be discovered and i would become an outcast ( more so ).
i was lucky enough to have my apostate brother refer me to this site.
Jeh os phat,
I came here thinking it was a forum for JW's...Look at the name of this forum and you will see why I though that.
In case your still lurking I am not df'ed or da'ed I'm an inactive JW.
Also read right below the forums name all wecome !
People here base their hated towards the whole of the WTS on the actions of imperfect man. Jehovah has always used imperfect man to look after his people and his earthly organisation and has they are imperfect they make mistakes or they even do something that is not right in the eyes of Jehovah.
So we have imperfect men making mistakes in an imperfect orginasation with imperfect rules.
BUUUUTTTTTTTT, thou shall follow them perfectly.
jehosofat, try questioning the elders about 607vs.587 and the relashionship of 1914 to them, see where that gets you.
"i was put up against a wall the last years of my life, always depressed, hopeless and miserable.
even though i was married and had a family i was alone, no one to confide in, no one to turn to, always in fear that my doubt would be discovered and i would become an outcast ( more so ).
i was lucky enough to have my apostate brother refer me to this site.
Scout575,
I actually don't have a problem with God setting conditions, I'm for it.
I'm against men and orginasations who teach mans rules as if they were from God.
just heard his interview on conan o'brien... .
his father was a jw..mother was a baptist.. .
thought it was hilarious...his dad told him it would explode if he touched it>
Thought it was hilarious...his dad told him IT would explode if he touched it>
What does this mean?
Cults do not discriminate in their membership.
The Christian Science cult sure likes Hollywood.
the origins of jehovah is the irish letter jodh, which gave rise to the hebrew yod, the first letter of god's name.
this letter jodh or yodh (the greek iota) is our modern "i" and "j.
" the irish druids associated this letter with the tree we refer to as the yew (from yeu or yodh).
Ms whip,
I hope this wasn't a baptism.
"i was put up against a wall the last years of my life, always depressed, hopeless and miserable.
even though i was married and had a family i was alone, no one to confide in, no one to turn to, always in fear that my doubt would be discovered and i would become an outcast ( more so ).
i was lucky enough to have my apostate brother refer me to this site.
Hi foreverjw welcome to JWD,
ask yourself if you want true unconditonal love
Think about what this really means, ever watch tv talk shows and parents talk about loving there kids.The parents hate the things their kids are doing, but they are there for them and continue to love them no matter what.
Now think about the WT and their shunning policy, I'm sorry but that is conditional love, if you don't meet the WT's conditions you will not be loved.
I remember talks that told bros and sis to seek out the friendship of those who were strong spiritually
to build yourself up. This used to piss me off because it basicly means elders MS pioneer good friends,
publishers ok friends on sliding scale according to field service hours, irregular and inactive BAD FRIENDS.
Great encouragement to start even more clicks in the cong.