does anyone have any interesting observations since the book study arrangement in private homes finished?.
are jws happier with the extra night off?
do they miss the book study?
Well they said it was because of gas prices.....
My mom and dad said at the time.
"the society knows something is coming! They know things about the future, gas prices will really be going up !! We are really close to the end !!!! You better come back before it's to late!!"
Now they say " I never said that"
What about goodie night???
the 'revelations' hit me even harder, the second time around..... i purchased two copies, the version copyrighted 1983 and the version copyrighted 2004. i kept the old version [1983] and just donated the 2004 copy to my local library - with a quick warning that 'cult' members may be inclined to steal the expose.
i decided to read it again to try to visualize how a "worldly" person who is unacquainted with the jws would view the book.... in reading the book again, i am more forcefully struck by the blatant contradictions between the 'official' stance of the watchtower society and their 'behind-the-scenes' behavior.... chapters 3 & 4 - "governing body" and "internal upheaval and restructure" - contain some eye-popping material... the earlier portion of chapter 3 touches on the intrusive regulation of sexual practices between husband and wife [i'll bet any worldly person reading that would find that chilling, to say the least...], and then goes into the power struggles between russell's followers and rutherford's ousting of said followers during his successful bid for control.. very revealing... i was also struck by the fact that the wtbts was a religion with a single man leading it, until the very end of nathan knorr's period of leadership, despite the claims of the watchtower magazine that "god's organization" was being run by a "governing body" of spiritual "caretakers" for several years prior to the actual existence of said "governing body"!!!.
as ray franz states, page 65 of 1983 version: "[quote from 12/15/71 watchtower...]: "thus, too, even though there were no apostles of christ on hand in the nineteenth century, god's holy spirit must have been operative toward the formation of the governing body for his anoited remnant ... the facts speak for themselves.
Alice you are fucked up ...... baaaaad.
Or maybe you are just the master troll.
you can freely distribute this information to your family, friends, news media, anyone!
below is a timeline of watchtower quotes about armageddon coming in 1925!.
i got most of these quotes from the great quotes website at http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com and a few other websites!.
Good compilation of scriptures
just what I was looking for
thanks
i received this generous offering from 'anonymous brother'.
his comments : hmmm...why do i not see such things at most jw funerals?.
please give your 'thank you' to "anonymous brother'.
Thanks for that.
"Deeply saddened by their loss" ?
What did they think he was going to live forever ?
did you watch this?.
http://www.jw-media.org/gbl/gbl04e.htm.
insert comments.
That was really Fabulous, beautiful, joyful, lovely and wonderful .
Becoming a JW is a personal choice that is made on a individual basis.
Everyone has the right to decide what to do with their life. Tell that to an 8-18 year old kid.
Why, you know if everyone was a Jehovah Witness we would live in a perfect world !!!
Thanks for raising my blood pressure.
moo
i've been watching the new dvd and it is a bull fest about russell.
i haven't even gotten half way and they already excluded one very important bit of information.
you'll recall that russell "lost" his faith and "turning away from church creeds and searching for truth, russell examined some leading oriental religions, only to find these unsatisfying".
Thanks Titus,
Not a bad quality production, but what rose colored glasses they have.
JW's are sure good at braggin about themselves.
Music reminded me of Moses and the ten commandments.
does anyone have this clip available for download.
i didn't see a way to copy the video off of danny's site.. i would love to send this in e-mails to relatives and other jw's.
http://www.dannyhaszard.com/cultvideos.htm.
RR,
I tried that it only saves the link.
You're right it is bad quality wise.
You could rip your DVD to your computer and upload, then file share .
moo
does anyone have this clip available for download.
i didn't see a way to copy the video off of danny's site.. i would love to send this in e-mails to relatives and other jw's.
http://www.dannyhaszard.com/cultvideos.htm.
Does anyone have this clip available for download.
I didn't see a way to copy the video off of Danny's site.
I would love to send this in e-mails to relatives and other JW's
i've been watching the new dvd and it is a bull fest about russell.
i haven't even gotten half way and they already excluded one very important bit of information.
you'll recall that russell "lost" his faith and "turning away from church creeds and searching for truth, russell examined some leading oriental religions, only to find these unsatisfying".
May I have the link also?
please
moo
this is an excerpt from the final talk of the day, "remain in the secret place of the most high".
i looked around as this explanation was being offered up, and the looks on the faces of people there was mostly disinterest.
this is a very convoluted explanation that reminds me of someone running a con and trying to cobble together an explanation to deal with legitimate objections to their false claims.. http://www.sendspace.com/file/dodp4w.
If a witness taught this a couple of years ago they would be disfellowshipped?
Do not teach the old version that the society taught for some 80 years or you will be disfellowshipped?
