Posts by moomanchu

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Pomo because of Proclaimers book, 1995 generation change and Daniel prophecy book

by Gorb in

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have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.

the years i became pimo.

a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.

moomanchu

Longhairgal

I didn't leave instantaneously,, but at that moment I allowed myself to start researching. Joined this site, started visiting "apostate" sites, bought about 10 books on cults, of course Raymond Franz's books. Faded over 4 years

Proud to say our last meeting was the memorial 2000.

Advice for any fence sitters out there,

When you buy a car do you only research the car with the manufacturers information or do you seak out independent non bias sources?

You can't make a rational choice of religion only using the information they provide.

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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

by jwundubbed in

i found out recently that michelangelo's painting of adam on the sistine chapel depicts him without a belly button.

i had never noticed this before and it makes sense that neither adam nor eve would have belly buttons, not having been born in the usual way.

then i realized all the first animals were created rather than born, according to the religious views of the origin of life.

moomanchu

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Pomo because of Proclaimers book, 1995 generation change and Daniel prophecy book

by Gorb in

jw
friends

have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.

the years i became pimo.

a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.

moomanchu

The generation that will never die always kept me hanging on.

When that got blown up, my mind got opened up.

I will never forget the Sunday Watchtower study on this .When we got to the paragraph about the subject, I looked around at all the people in the audience and there was nothing.

Zoned out drones half asleep people waiting to go home.

And then it was bye bye for me!

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Where Adam and Eve Vegan/Vegetarian?

by KerryKing in

jws seem to firmly believe that before the flood mankind eas vegan or at least vegetarian.. however, in gen 1:24,25 it says that god created livestock (domestic animals) and beasts of the eart (wild beasts).. why would adam and eve need livestock if they were vegan and naked?

wouldn't need wool or hide for clothing, nor meat for food.

possibly for dairy products only?

moomanchu

Animals also could be companions as comfort and support., apparently not enough so Eve was created.

Everything else you mentioned happened after the sin.

The male dominated birth rate could be a result of sin.

Learning to kill animals - God showed the way because of clothes.

No longer Vegan probably did happen after being thrown out of the garden,

no longer having access to easy food production.

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EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS

by raymond frantz in

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https://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.

shame is an ancient form of control.

shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.

moomanchu

Did someone pick that name for the horny elder on purpose?

"Brother Johnson"

https://youtu.be/CpiP_jN1Pv4

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Holding a grudge

by LongHairGal in

i read something recently on reddit (not sure what thread) where a person related how some jw told them that ‘they hold a grudge’.. this reminded me of something an old jw acquaintance said to me some years back when i related my bad experience in the religion.. so, apparently, jehovah’s witnesses feel they should be forgiven for anything.

people should forget all about it and act like nothing happened and be charitable towards them, etc… when i read in james and ephesians i got the sense ‘holding a grudge’ was referring to the things average people do to offend each other.. i don’t see it applying to a religion that claimed to speak for god and who engendered hateful and unchristian attitudes towards people.. i know because i experienced this.. in addition, some people’s lives were damaged by listening to faulty teachings and interference in things that were clearly none of anybody’s business.. one case in point: them knocking worldly careers and now there are thousands of destitute jws in senior years with nothing.. then in 2023 the religion does away with a century old teaching about counting hours in the ministry.

meanwhile, i got judged over this.

moomanchu

Imitate Jehovah in regard to grudges. He is still pissed about that apple.

Forgive if the person and or religion meets these requirements.

Abandonment of wrong doing.

Repent and apologize for past wrong doing.

Asks for forgiveness.

Compensation for the harm.

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Thanking Jehovah God for Sports

by Sea Breeze in

serena william's thanks jehovah god for allowing her to participate in sports.

how nice.

my jw parents followed the rules and thought they were doing jehovahs will by denying me participation in sports.

moomanchu

Rattigan350 I read your post about 10 times and I still have no idea what you are saying. LOL

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Thanking Jehovah God for Sports

by Sea Breeze in

serena william's thanks jehovah god for allowing her to participate in sports.

how nice.

my jw parents followed the rules and thought they were doing jehovahs will by denying me participation in sports.

moomanchu

Can't put my finger on it, but there is something about her I can't stand!

She strikes me as being a total phony about everything.

Hell, one thing for sure I know she is phony, being a JW.

The way her opponent was looking at her is the way I feel about her.

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"A Jehovah's Witness"

by NotFormer in

a very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.

"one of jehovah's witnesses".

it's one of those coded jargon thingies.

moomanchu

Rattigan350 - People need to stop using the jargon of the Bible and then apply it to today.

You should try getting a writing job at The Onion. Both comments are funny. I don't find it strange when Catholics say I'm one of Catholics.

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What the watchtower demands from you

by Ron.W. in

perhaps you considering joining the wt cult - here is a concise list of why you should not.. what the watchtower demands of you:.

1.complete obedience to them.. 2. be willing to lose your life for zany blood teachings.. 3.put other cult members before your real family.. 4.refusal to let you leave their religion when the penny drops it's a cult.. 6.accept that they can backtrack and change any of their flip flop teachings at any time.. 7. you can't change your mind about their teachings without harsh discipline,.

8. insistence that you humbly and quickly apologise for your mistakes and errors.. 9.gladly accept they will never be apologising for any of their mistakes or errors of judgement.. 10.accept that even ones who follow and believe in the bible, but not the governing body are worthy of destruction.. please feel free to add more..

moomanchu

11 No holiday celebrations or birthday celebrations.

12 No patriotism or voting in your country.

13 Friends or potential spouses limited to Jehovah Witnesses.

14 All relationships besides Heterosexual are to be condemned.

15 No smoking of anything, however unlimited amounts of alcohol and food is fine.