(matthew 24:36) “concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the son, but only the father.".
(jesus seems to have forgotten to include the holy spirit not knowing either).
(acts 1:7) "he said to them: “it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the father has placed in his own jurisdiction.".
My answer to all of this is: mankind is too dumb to understand God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
It's like expecting a horse to understand a car, engine and gasoline.
It is one thing, the same and different and it produces something called
horsepower which is named after you. See how important you are.
Horse " I don't understand???"
simply put; gullible people were told if they chose life on earth instead of heaven, they wouldn't have to die.
that's how they sold it.
the watchtower lied to people in the 1920 booklet and convention series titled "millions now living will never die!
Convincing people they won't die if they listen has a long history.
Adam and Eve made one bad choice one day. JW'S make a bad choice every day their whole life.
https://youtu.be/tmcl4gizjii?si=xoapw8c1nug_ffuz.
Joe
You would like the series American Primeval on Netflix. Story about the Mormons
how many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.
my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.
Elena
What is the point of putting up a false pretense by staying in ? You're going to be dead (perish) anyway.
Remember all the signs at football games.
“For God so loved the world that He gave his one and only Son, that WHO EVER BELIEVES in Him should not perish but have eternal life.” -John 3:16
Agnostic: a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither belief nor disbelief in God.
so today i saw a group of jws i know, we were sitting down to eat at a public place and i guess they (mom and daughter) were performing at an event with their sports team… for juneteenth.. they (the entire team) happened to sit next to us for some fast food and i recognized them and said hi, hoping to make them uncomfortable.
they actually said hi and introduced themselves to my family, i’ve seen them before (they go to the same school as one of my kids) and they usually ignore me.
i know for a fact they and their family still goes, the family patriarch is an elder etc.
on wednesday he said they were “beautiful poles” and “the best poles anywhere.
.
in the world actually.” .
Blonde
It's possible to do multiple things at the same time. At least for normal functioning people.
Here is a classic Trump snippet of the flag pole ceremony. LOL
memories..... a 1970s-1980s meetup location to grab a ride to local trips on the subway...or a bite on montague st.. brooklyn heights hotel to be turned into homes.
the hotel bossert, a storied hotel on montague street in brooklyn heights, was sold to someraroad, a new york city and nashville-based real estate investment and development firm.. bk reader staffmay 31, 2025 10:00 amjun 2, 2025 9:20 am.
photo: supplied/jim.henderson via wikimedia commonslisten to this article00:01:23. .
Dagney
I forgot about that view! It was one of the best in NYC.
It would take us 1 hour 20 min to be out front of the factory buildings. I've lost count of the times being there. I remember way back somehow my brother would finagle us to stay in an open apartment or house.overnight.
Who remebers all the tunnels between the buildings?
Growing up going to NYC equated going to bethel.
it wasn't till I left JW that I realized "hey you can just go to NYC to have fun." lol
there are 1/2 of the jehovah’s witnesses that there were 30 years ago in my area.
some have left but i think that many have died and none of their kids stayed being jehovah’s witnesses.
7 congregations have been dissolved over the years.
It’s easy to judge others from a distance, but that rarely helps. People are complicated. Some stay in institutions for reasons that might seem weak, such as fear of shunning or sunk cost fallacy, while others stay because they are trying to do something good.It seems you are combining all christian groups into one big lump. My judgement is specifically for JW's. My judgement is not from a distance, I lived it. Ever hear of the "KISS" acronym Keep It Simple Stupid. I'm sorry, but all the complications you speak of are all just excuses for staying in. That's fine if that's what you want to do, but then don't cry about it.
I was in Rome for 3 days and spent a day at the Vatican and St. Peters Basilica. It is overwhelming and amazing. Go early it gets crowded., everything is crowded over there. If you can take a tour of one of the Catacombs, that was really cool to me. Well, actually the whole area is incredible. The Roman Forum, Castel SantAngelo, Trevi fountain and of course the Colliseum and so many other places to see.
how many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.
my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.
Ironically -
The top 10 reasons people stay out of a cult.
1.Succesful (financial, career ect.)
2.Family/friends
3.confident
4.Industrious
5.Selflessness
6.Suspicious
7.Informed
8. Clever/intelligent
9.Independent
10.Unbreakable
how many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.
my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.
Top 10 reasons people stay in a cult. (not necessarily in order of importance)
1. Sunk cost fallacy
2.Family/friends
3.Fear
4.Lazy
5.Narcissism (special, chosen people)
6.Gullible
7.Willfully ignorant (ignorance is bliss)
8.Stupid
9.Want controlled group think
10. Brainwashed
