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  All Secret Santa Paricipants sign in here please!

  by Gadget in

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  2. friends

  the details of who to send a gift to will be getting pm'd to you all either friday afternoon or saturday morning!

  according to the information i've found online the last posting day for standard parcels is dec 11th for usa and december 15th for the uk/europe, so you should all have plenty of time to select and send a gift, although sending sooner rather than later is prefered.

  can everyone taking part post on this thread what things they like, what their interests are etc so that the person who is buying a gift for you has some idea what to get you.

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  Not fussy.

  Great idea Gadget.

  Fifi
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  My daughter and granddaughter.

  by kat2u in

  1. social
  2. family

  this may be a bit long,,, sorry,.

  my daughter t was born when i was a married witness,i was almost 21.she was a very sweet outgoing loving child.when she was 4 i had another daughter s .

  lol this one was my challenge when she was little but is now such a joy to me.. anyway t began school at 5 and seemed to be doing well with school and her friends.. just about a month after she began 1st grade we had stopped to eat lunch while out in service.t suddenly made a strange noise she looked off into space with a strange stare and wouldnt respond to anything we said or did.i was in a panic by the time she began talking again and told us that she heard us but couldnt answer us at that point.demons?was my first thought but as i began to ask her about it then i began to feel she had had a small seizure.

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  Hi Kat,

  Have been away for a while so have only just read your post. My heart goes out to you. But in your despair it is still encouraging to hear that you never want to be a witness again. One day, I hope that your daughter will remember that you were there for her when she needed you.

  Many Hugs,

  Fifi
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  Big Tax Bill on JW's in France

  by gespro in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i didn't find this in the threads so i'm posting it just in case you guys didn't see this [courtesy of ...ahem...jw's united]

  france - court of cassation confirms jehovah?s witnesses have to pay 23 million eur taxes.

  the decision will be appealed before the european court of human rights.

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  Jesus said to give tax to those demanding it.

  Couldn't agree more. What happened to giving back Caesar's things to Caesar?
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  How Many Here Left The Organization? How Many Got Kicked Out??

  by minimus in

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  just curious.....

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  I went looking for something else 'just to make sure' and found it. I then got kicked out for having done that. Been out for 17 years, but have only made peace with myself since finding this board a few months ago.
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  Ask any JW this line of questioning.

  by apocalypse in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  if you have opportunity to enter a discussion with a jw (i am still active so for me it's not a problem) ask this line of questions.. q) are you going to go to the red cross to give blood?.

  a) they will answer speedily... no!

  (without hesitation).

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  I would also like to hear what he says, Maya. Please don't forgret to tell us all.

  Fifi
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  Preaching Doom and Gloom in October?

  by Sassy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my ex husband (who is dfd but not a professsed apostate) told me yesterday that in october there is going to be a big push for preaching doom in service.. like the last chance to get people in before the end.. .

  has anyone else heard this?.

  i assume either his brother who is a dub or his mother have passed this on to him, in order to scare him to come back quick before everyone dies.. .

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  Last time 'the time of the end' thing came up, I said "you know what? even if I still thought you were right, the thought of all your love bombing when I come back to the JWs would be enough to put me off. Yesterday you wouldn't have pi**ed on me if I'd been on fire!! And even if I get through the big A, imagine having to spend eternity with a bunch of people like you. NO THANKS.
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  Please help! ( I have a question?)

  by bsylva in

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  2. relationships

  my question is this,.

  and she loves me as well.

  however i was baptised as a catholic as a child.

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  Incidentally, you might like to visit the site 'beyond jehovahs witnesses'. Their list of topics also deals with being inlove with a witness. The link is often at the top of these pages. Hope this can help.

  Fifi
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  Please help! ( I have a question?)

  by bsylva in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  my question is this,.

  and she loves me as well.

  however i was baptised as a catholic as a child.

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  I am curious about why she even started to date a 'worldy person' as this is not allowed?? Have you kept this secret from her parents this whole time?? Aren't you afraid that she is so attracted to you in part because you are 'the forbidden fruit'? You fall in love with each other and SHE knows the whole time that she is not suppose to marry an 'unbeliever'?

  Hi there,

  These are some good points brought out by Jez. In my own case, I had already moved away from home because I had doubts about the teachings of the organisation. I was lucky enough to meet someone (now my husband) who was able to help me through the whole thing with his gentle manner of reasoning/questioning. He really helped me to think for myself for the first time in my life.

  If your relationship works out, be prepared ... it WILL be rough. It could be that she (knowing that 'wordly' relationships are foridden) is looking for a way out. If this is the case you should BOTH be aware that if she chooses you over her faith and family, it won't be easy for either of you. She will have a lot of sacrifices to make and you will have to be really understanding and supportive. If she is a baptized witness, things will be hell for her. I know, I've been there. From one day to the next, I was completely cut off from everything/everyone I had ever known (including my own family), no two ways about it. The people I had once called 'brothers' and 'sisters', 'aunties' or 'uncles' since I was a baby, just ignored me. All the people I called friends, weren't there for me and I had to make a new life from scratch.

  In my opinion, the one who has to choose is her, not you. Be warned, you have too much to lose and she has everything to gain from freedom, but like I said, if it works out you will have to be strong many times and very often enough for the two of you. I don't know what I would do without my husband being there for me. Even now, 17 years later, it is still hard. I don't regret leaving, but I do miss my family. I can only hope that one day they will be able to see through the hipocrisy and have a change of heart.

  Good luck and keep us posted.

  Best Wishes,

  Fifi
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  Help Please!!!!

  by sandy in

  1. social
  2. family

  my niece announced to the entire family she is disfellowshipped and i got t cornered.. i was in the room when she told the family (dumb me being nosey) and my family started asking me questions about going back to the meetings.. i told them i do not believe in organized religion and some days i doubt the biblical existance of god.

  i told them about the un scandal and they do not believe it.. they think it is a plot by satan somehow to mislead people away from the organization.

  after being cornered by five of them i went into my shell and didn't defend my thoughts very well.

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  Hi Sandy,

  I feel so bad for you. I know what you must feel like, and it is true that it would be nice to feel free enough to give your opinions, but I agree with Blues Brother when he says about it 'not being the right time'. These things can be really hard. The emotional ties can be so painful.

  I hope everything turns out OK for you (and your niece).

  Keep smiling

  Fifi
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  JWs and materialism

  by YellowLab in

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  2. friends

  been out of the "truth" for nine years now, with many family members and relatives still in.

  while i was in, we were taught to be humble and put jehovah first in your life.

  meetings, study and service were the most essential parts of being a jw.

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  As far as I have been able to judge, I must admit that there seems to be an increase of interest for material things amongst JWs, but not all of them. It seems more acceptable for those with positions in the congregation to get themselves "better off". It is also true that they don't seem to get any"grief" about their situation as opposed to "lesser" JWs.