i think this has been discussed before.
if anyone could provide some links that would be great.. i tried the "google" search and didn't come up with anything.
i am terrible at doing searches.. thank you,.
Try this:
http://upetd.up.ac.za/thesis/available/etd-03192004-135203/
It's a PhD thesis at the Old Testament Science Department at the Pretoria University, titled "Does Yahweh exist? A philosophical-critical reconstruction of the case against realism in Old Testament Theology"
The various chapters can be downloaded as PDF files.
I found it very interesting.
Behemot
well, today i came home from work and i found some pamphlet from a jehovah's witness on my doorstep.
i began to read it because before i state what i believe i think it is only fair that i find out some info.
it was the flyer about the end of false religion.
I'm surprised none of you smells a troll here.
Guess it's because Amanda's post exactly mirrors the reaction to the tract you wish and welcome.
I tend to believe that most people won't bother reading the tract and even those who will, won't take the time to research and/or post their opinions (on the wrong place, for that matter, but incidentally on a forum where her thoughts would be commended and agreed upon).
I'm afraid Amanda might be making fun of you (no replies so far, I wonder why).
Behemot
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i don't post often but i read a lot on this forum, appreciating especially leolaia's and narkissos' approach to bible issues.. can they (or other "scholars" in the forum) post here (or direct me to) any info or non-apologetic comment about isaiah chapter 2?
behemot
Leolaia, thanks, I'll PM you.
Behemot
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i don't post often but i read a lot on this forum, appreciating especially leolaia's and narkissos' approach to bible issues.. can they (or other "scholars" in the forum) post here (or direct me to) any info or non-apologetic comment about isaiah chapter 2?
behemot
Justitia and Narkissos,
thanks for your helpful replies. I will look up the commentaries you suggest.
Behemot
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i don't post often but i read a lot on this forum, appreciating especially leolaia's and narkissos' approach to bible issues.. can they (or other "scholars" in the forum) post here (or direct me to) any info or non-apologetic comment about isaiah chapter 2?
behemot
Hi Narkissos,
I'm looking for info about historical and literary background of chap. 2, especially vv. 1-4 and 10-22, with a view to debunk the JWs interpretation of it. Thanks for your help.
Behemot
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i don't post often but i read a lot on this forum, appreciating especially leolaia's and narkissos' approach to bible issues.. can they (or other "scholars" in the forum) post here (or direct me to) any info or non-apologetic comment about isaiah chapter 2?
behemot
Hi everybody,
I don't post often but I read a lot on this forum, appreciating especially Leolaia's and Narkissos' approach to Bible issues.
Can they (or other "scholars" in the forum) post here (or direct me to) any info or non-apologetic comment about Isaiah chapter 2?
Thanks for your help,
Behemot
in my country a few years ago there was the (unwritten) rule that skirts long to the shoes were not ok for sisters.
unfortunately in brooklyn it seems that nobody knew about this, so once, much to the embarassment of the local branch that was upholding the rule, a wt issue came up that had on one page a pic of a sister preaching who wore just that kind of skirt; and on another page a pic of a witness party with a sister sitting on a sofa whose skirt covered her shoes.
result?
It's a European country.
Sorry for not being more specific (I have good reasons) and for following the WT habit of vagueness when reporting not-very-upbuilding facts, as in the following example:
"A report from one European country indicates that at times some brothers and sisters arrive at the Kingdom Hall with a strong smell of alcohol on their breath." (wt dec. 15, 1996, page 29)
Don't know if it's the same country I'm referring to. Maybe not.
Behemot
in my country a few years ago there was the (unwritten) rule that skirts long to the shoes were not ok for sisters.
unfortunately in brooklyn it seems that nobody knew about this, so once, much to the embarassment of the local branch that was upholding the rule, a wt issue came up that had on one page a pic of a sister preaching who wore just that kind of skirt; and on another page a pic of a witness party with a sister sitting on a sofa whose skirt covered her shoes.
result?
In my country a few years ago there was the (unwritten) rule that skirts long to the shoes were not OK for sisters. Unfortunately in Brooklyn it seems that nobody knew about this, so once, much to the embarassment of the local branch that was upholding the rule, a WT issue came up that had on one page a pic of a sister preaching who wore just that kind of skirt; and on another page a pic of a Witness party with a sister sitting on a sofa whose skirt covered her shoes. Result? The issue in the local language was printed with "edited" pics: the pic with the preaching sister was added an edge of greenery at the bottom so you could no longer see where the skirt ended; in the other pic they did a better job in that they actually shortened the skirt and added feet and shoes.
Don't know if the changes were approved by the Headquarters or were an independent initiative of the branch committee. Anyway I saw the changes with my eyes as at the time I had access at the English issue of the magazines.
Behemot
in line with ritchie rich's thread where abad points out that the wts has an ongoing editing policy for the littermanure.. they have heavily edited the bound volumes as opposed to the original ragazines.
they even got rid of kingdumb melodies from the song book, because their composer turned away.
ditto the aid book.. has anyone noticed if they remove people from old photos who are no longer approved?
In my country a few years ago there was the unwritten rule that skirts that were long to the shoes were not OK for sisters. Unfortunately in Brooklyn it seems that nobody knew about this, so once, much to the embarassment of the local branch that had upheld the rule, a WT issue came up that had on one page a pic of a sister preaching who had just such a skirt; and on another page a pic of a Witness party with a sister sitting on a sofa whose skirt covered her shoes. Result? The issue in the local language was printed with "edited" pics: the pic with the preaching sister was added an edge of greenery at the bottom so you could no longer see where the skirt ended; in the other pic they did a better job in that they actually shortened the skirt and added feet and shoes.
Don't know if the changes were approved by the Headquarters or were an independent initiative of the branch committee. Anyway I saw the changes with my eyes as at the time I had access at the English issue of the magazines.
Behemot
well, i guess its about time that i dealt with one of the housekeeping issues of this book numbers.
although i have dealt with the bibles poor mathematical skills in the chapter the numbers of the book, up to this point i have only proven that in some cases, the bibles numbers are physically impossible.
when it comes to the size and contents of the temple or and the length of the egyptian bondage, the numbers just dont add up.
...forgot to ask:
how would you answer the claim that the Book of Asher as known today is a forgery and not the one mentioned in the Bible? See the link:
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Sefer%20haYashar%20(midrash )
Excerpt:
The book seems to pretend to be the otherwise lost Sefer haYashar mentioned in Joshua and 2 Samuel, and covers Biblical history from the creation of Adam and Eve to a summary of the initial Israelite conquest of Canaan in the beginning of the book of Judges. It contains references that fit those cited in the Biblical texts, both the reference about the sun and moon found in Joshua and also the reference in 2 Samuel... But the book in its entirety cannot be so old as shown by chapter 10 covering the descendants of Noah which even contains medieval names for territories and countries, perhaps mostly obviously Franza for France and Lumbardi for Lombardy in Italy. (gross!!! I double checked this and it's true).
Most of its extra-Biblical accounts are found in nearly the same form in either other medieval compilations, or in the Talmud or in other midrash or in Arabic sources. For example it contains the common tale that Lamech and his son Jabal accidentally killed Cain, thus requiting his wickedness for slaying Abel.
Behemot
