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  Court decision reverts unemployment compensation for JW quitting employment over birthday issue

  by behemot in

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  at 45a.. employer contends[ 2 ] that the board erred when it determined that claimant had shouldered her burden of proving that she had a necessitous and compelling reason for terminating her employment.

  .. if it is determined that beliefs are sincerely held, then it must also be established that those beliefs are religious in nature.

  they are saying happy birthday, calhoun jewelers.

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  behemot

  ... oops ... just found out it was already posted here:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/192130/1/Birthday-silliness

  sorry for the duplicate post!
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  Russia: Scientology writings banned as extremist

  by behemot in

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  scientology writings banned as extremist21 april 2010by scott roseworks by scientology founder l. ron hubbard will be added to the country's list of extremist literature for "undermining the traditional spiritual values of the citizens of the russian federation," the prosecutor general's office said wednesday.. the ruling initiated by transport prosecutors in the siberian city of surgut and khanty-mansiisk customs officers is the latest use of the hotly debated law on extremism to target systems of belief that are not traditional to russia.. individuals in possession of extremist materials can be jailed for up to 15 days or fined 3,000 rubles ($100).

  the law also allows for harsher punishment of suspects convicted of other crimes.. prosecutors said they intercepted 28 individual titles, including books, audio and video recordings by hubbard that were sent to residents in surgut from the united states.

  the materials were sent for study to "psychiatrists, psychologists and sociologists," who determined that they should not be distributed in russia, the prosecutor's office said in a statement.. a surgut city court approved the transport prosecutors' request "in full," the statement said.. the ruling opens a new legal front against the church of scientology, which won a ruling against russia at the european court of human rights last year.. scientology's branches in surgut and nizhnekamsk successfully sued the country in october at the strasbourg-based court for refusing to list them as religious organizations on the grounds that they had not existed in russia for 15 years.. the court awarded them a combined 20,000 euros ($27,000) in damages and court costs.. among the works to be banned from distribution in russia are "the factors, admiration & the renaissance of beingness" (lectures 1-18) and "the unification congress.

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  Scientology Writings Banned as Extremist

  21 April 2010 By Scott Rose

  Works by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard will be added to the country's list of extremist literature for "undermining the traditional spiritual values of the citizens of the Russian Federation," the Prosecutor General's Office said Wednesday.

  The ruling — initiated by transport prosecutors in the Siberian city of Surgut and Khanty-Mansiisk customs officers — is the latest use of the hotly debated law on extremism to target systems of belief that are not traditional to Russia.

  Individuals in possession of extremist materials can be jailed for up to 15 days or fined 3,000 rubles ($100). The law also allows for harsher punishment of suspects convicted of other crimes.

  Prosecutors said they intercepted 28 individual titles, including books, audio and video recordings by Hubbard that were sent to residents in Surgut from the United States. The materials were sent for study to "psychiatrists, psychologists and sociologists," who determined that they should not be distributed in Russia, the prosecutor's office said in a statement.

  A Surgut city court approved the transport prosecutors' request "in full," the statement said.

  The ruling opens a new legal front against the Church of Scientology, which won a ruling against Russia at the European Court of Human Rights last year.

  Scientology's branches in Surgut and Nizhnekamsk successfully sued the country in October at the Strasbourg-based court for refusing to list them as religious organizations on the grounds that they had not existed in Russia for 15 years.

  The court awarded them a combined 20,000 euros ($27,000) in damages and court costs.

  Among the works to be banned from distribution in Russia are "The Factors, Admiration & the Renaissance of Beingness" (Lectures 1-18) and "The Unification Congress. Communication! Freedom and Ability" (Lectures 1-16), the statement said.

  It was not immediately clear which additional titles were included or when they would officially be added to the list, a process that has taken months in the past.

  An e-mailed request for comment to the Los Angeles-based Church of Scientology went unanswered Wednesday evening.

  According to the research requested by prosecutors, the seized works contained "ideas justifying violence in general and in particular any means of opposing critics of Scientology," the statement said. "The works have clear as well as hidden calls for social and religious hatred" and call for hindering the work of the state.

  Scientology was created by science-fiction author Hubbard in the 1950s. The secretive church has faced regular criticism and litigation from former members, who allege that it is a cult charging massive fees for purported religious services.

  Germany has ruled that it is a commercial organization and several other European governments have refused to recognize it as a religion.

  source: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/scientology-writings-banned-as-extremist/404475.html
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  Court decision reverts unemployment compensation for JW quitting employment over birthday issue

  by behemot in

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  at 45a.. employer contends[ 2 ] that the board erred when it determined that claimant had shouldered her burden of proving that she had a necessitous and compelling reason for terminating her employment.

  .. if it is determined that beliefs are sincerely held, then it must also be established that those beliefs are religious in nature.

  they are saying happy birthday, calhoun jewelers.

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  CALHOUN JEWELERS LLC v. UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION BOARD OF REVIEW

  Calhoun Jewelers LLC, Petitioner,
  v.
  Unemployment Compensation Board of Review, Respondent.

  No. 2081 C.D. 2009.

  Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania.

  Submitted: February 26, 2010.

  Filed: April 20, 2010.

  Before: McGINLEY, Judge; BROBSON, Judge; FLAHERTY, Senior Judge.

  OPINION NOT REPORTED

  MEMORANDUM OPINION BY JUDGE McGINLEY

  Calhoun Jewelers, LLC (Employer) petitions for review from the order of the Unemployment Compensation Board of Review (Board) which reversed the referee's denial of benefits under Section 402(b) of the Unemployment Compensation Law (Law) [ 1 ] and granted benefits to Trista Reichman (Claimant).

  The facts as found by the Board are as follows:

  1. The claimant was last employed with Calhoun Jeweler's as a part-time sales associate, thirty hours per week, at a pay rate of $12.00 per hour. The claimant was employed from July 5, 2006 and her last day of work was April 11, 2008.

  2. The claimant is a Jehovah's Witness and so advised the employer at the time she was hired.

  3. It is against the religious beliefs of Jehovah Witnesses to celebrate Christmas, holidays or birthdays.

  4. The claimant's religious beliefs prohibited the claimant from celebrating or having an active involvement in Christmas, holidays or birthdays.

  5. The claimant did type out a birthday list for the employer and did list her birthday on the list.

  6. Jehovah Witnesses acknowledge that there are legitimate business reasons to share their birthdays with their employers.

  7. The claimant did not sing when the employer celebrated birthdays for employees at work.

  8. The claimant did eat food that was brought into the workplace for employees to eat for their birthdays.

  9. However, the claimant did not eat birthday cake.

  . . . .

  12. The employer asked the claimant to make a word template for the employer to send birthday cards and anniversary cards to clients, advertising the employer's business; the claimant complied with the employer's instructions.

  13. The employer asked the claimant to write out a personal message on the anniversary cards and the birthday cards.

  14. The employer did not ask the claimant to sign her name to the cards.

  15. The claimant told the employer she would write the anniversary cards, but would not write out the birthday cards.

  16. The employer asked the claimant to explain why she would not write out the birthday cards; the claimant said she could not do it because it violated her religious beliefs.

  17. The employer told the claimant she needed to make a choice; the employer did not discharge the claimant.

  18. The claimant shook hands with the employer, said I've enjoyed working for you, and voluntarily left the job.

  19. Continuing work was available.

  Board Decision, September 23, 2009, (Decision), Findings of Fact Nos. 1-9 and 12-19 at 1-2; Reproduced Record (R.R.) at 43a-44a.

  The Board determined that Claimant established that she had cause of a necessitous and compelling nature for voluntarily quitting her employment:

  The claimant is a Jehovah's Witness. The claimant's sincere religious beliefs prohibited her from celebrating birthdays. The claimant did not want to write personal notes in birthday cards to clients because of her religious beliefs. The Board concludes that the claimant had good cause for her refusal to write personal notes in birthday cards[:] her religious beliefs. Therefore, the claimant had good cause to quit her employment pursuant to Section 402(b) of the Law.

  Opinion at 3; R.R. at 45a.

  Employer contends [ 2 ] that the Board erred when it determined that Claimant had shouldered her burden of proving that she had a necessitous and compelling reason for terminating her employment. [ 3 ]

  Whether a termination of employment is voluntary is a question of law subject to this Court's review. The failure of an employee to take all reasonable steps to preserve employment results in a voluntary termination. Westwood v. Unemployment Compensation Board of Review, 532 A.2d 1281 (Pa. Cmwlth. 1987). An employee voluntarily terminating employment has the burden of proving that such termination was necessitous and compelling. The question of whether a claimant has a necessitous and compelling reason to terminate employment is a question of law reviewable by this Court. Willet v. Unemployment Compensation Board of Review, 429 A.2d 1282 (Pa. Cmwlth. 1981). Good cause for voluntarily leaving one's employment results from circumstances which produce pressure to terminate employment that is both real and substantial and which would compel a reasonable person under the circumstances to act in the same manner. Philadelphia Parking Authority v. Unemployment Compensation Board of Review, 654 A.2d 280 (Pa. Cmwlth. 1995).

  In Monroe v. Unemployment Compensation Board of Review, 535 A.2d 1222 (Pa. Cmwlth. 1988), this Court addressed the framework for a determination as to whether sincerely held religious beliefs conflict with job duties:

  The First Amendment right to the free exercise of religion applies to a sincerely held religious belief, and we do not believe that this right is limited only to beliefs held by members of established religions. . . . Accordingly, an actual conflict between one's sincerely held religious beliefs and his or her employment conditions may constitute cause of a necessitous and compelling nature for voluntarily terminating employment. . . . .

  . . . .

  If it is determined that beliefs are sincerely held, then it must also be established that those beliefs are religious in nature. . . . (Emphasis in original) (Citations omitted).

  Monroe, 535 A.2d at 1224-1225.

  Here, it is undisputed that Claimant was a Jehovah's Witness. Claimant explained at the hearing before the referee that she believed that "many of the origins of birthdays are linked with false worship, even such things as birthday greetings, as happy birthday are linked with false worship of gods." Notes of Testimony, September 18, 2008, (N.T.) at 11; R.R. at 12a. Further, John Schankweiler (Schankweiler), an elder in the Jehovah's Witness faith, testified regarding the tenets of this religion concerning birthdays. This Court finds no error in the determination that Claimant was a Jehovah's Witness and, as a Jehovah's Witness, she had sincerely held beliefs concerning the celebration of birthdays.

  The Court must then focus on whether these sincerely held religious beliefs were in conflict with Claimant's employment conditions.

  At the hearing before the referee, Claimant testified regarding the birthday cards:

  It started that they had a new policy that they were going to start sending birthday cards and anniversary cards to clients. About a month before my employment ended I was asked to make a Word Template out of Microsoft Word for the cards, for both anniversary and birthday cards. It involved switching around margins on a Microsoft Word document, and I just typed in a general statement for both the anniversary and the birthday cards, and then I printed them out onto . . . the Calhoun Jewelers stationery. And then I was told by Patrick Young, the goldsmith, that when the cards were to be written, to keep an eye on who the clients were so personal messages could be written inside to personalize the cards.

  . . . .

  I didn't mind — I understood that the cards were for a general advertisement for the company, but when it came to personally writing the cards, that's when it was putting my own thoughts and my . . . own handwriting inside the cards, and that's where my conscience drew the line. I knew that because I don't celebrate birthdays as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, that it would be displeasing to my god if I were to do that.

  N.T. at 7; R.R. at 8a.

  Claimant also testified that she talked to Michael Lamiaux (Lamiaux), Employer's sales manager, and explained why she would not write the cards:

  He asked me why I wouldn't write the birthday cards as well as the anniversary, and I said that I don't celebrate birthdays, so I wouldn't be comfortable writing them. And then he said that it was ridiculous because I wasn't signing my name to them, they were for the store, and they weren't from me. And I said still that I would not feel comfortable writing them. And he pushed it further, and I said but I still will not write those cards.

  N.T. at 9; R.R. at 10a.

  On cross-examination, Claimant denied that she was told to write "stop in for a jewelry cleaning." N.T. at 14; R.R. at 15a. Also, on cross-examination, Claimant admitted that she sold people jewelry for birthdays and Christmas and that on certain occasions she wrapped the presents. N.T. at 22; R.R. at 23a. She further admitted that the card [ 4 ] was an advertising card. N.T. at 15; R.R. at 16a.

  On cross-examination, Schankweiler reviewed an example of the birthday card and was asked whether he considered it a birthday card or a solicitation to come in to Employer's store, he replied, "Well to me it would obviously be both. They are saying happy birthday, Calhoun Jewelers." N.T. at 25; R.R. at 26.

  Lamiaux testified that cards were not personal, because I understand where her beliefs were, because we've discussed that. I said you're not signing your name. I'm not asking you to sign it, Love Trista or to their name personally, Mr. John or whoever it [sic] they're sending it to; all I'm asking is to write on that come in and clean your jewelry.

  N.T. at 35; R.R. at 36a.

  Employer asserts that Claimant failed to establish what kind of message Employer wanted her to write on the card and whether she was required to put her own thoughts on the message. Employer also asserts that Claimant did not explain how writing a "canned message" would be offensive to her religious beliefs and that she failed to act with common sense and make reasonable efforts to preserve her employment.

  While this Court is cognizant of Claimant's religious beliefs, this Court does not agree with the Board. It is Claimant's burden to demonstrate that she had a necessitous and compelling reason for quitting her employment based on her sincerely held religious beliefs. Claimant established that she had sincerely held religious beliefs. However, the Board erred when it determined that the writing of a "personal message" on the card violated Claimant's religious beliefs when Claimant failed to describe the "personal message." Claimant had the opportunity to articulate what the message was that she was instructed to write and to establish how that violated her religion, but she failed to do so. Further, although Claimant testified that Patrick Young (Young), the goldsmith, instructed her to write personal messages on the cards, she did not establish whether Young had supervisory authority over her or was just making a suggestion. Claimant admitted that she prepared the card on the Microsoft Word template and that she sold jewelry for birthday gifts and wrapped the gifts. With regards to the birthday cards, even Claimant and Schwankweiler admitted that they were used for advertising. Claimant failed to establish how her job duties conflicted with her sincerely held religious beliefs. Consequently, she failed to establish a necessitous and compelling reason for quitting her employment. [ 5 ]

  Accordingly, this Court reverses.

  ORDER

  AND NOW, this 20th day of April, 2010, the order of the Unemployment Compensation Board of Review in the above-captioned matter is reversed.

  1. Act of December 5, 1936, Second Ex. Sess., P.L. (1937) 2897, as amended, 43 P.S. §802(b). 2. This Court has foregone the sequence of Employer's arguments. 3. This Court's review in an unemployment compensation case is limited to a determination of whether constitutional rights were violated, errors of law were committed, or essential findings of fact are not supportedby substantial evidence. Lee Hospital v. Unemployment Compensation Board of Review, 637 A.2d 695 (Pa. Cmwlth. 1994). 4. A sample of a birthday card was introduced into the record. The card contained the printed words, "Wishing you a Happy Birthday from Calhoun Jewelers." Handwritten beneath that were the words, "stop in and have us clean and polish your jewelry." The parties stipulated that Claimant did not write that. 5. This Court need not address Employer's remaining argument that Finding of Fact No. 13: "The employer asked her to write out a personal message on the anniversary cards and birthday cards" was unsupported by substantial evidence. source: http://www.leagle.com/unsecure/page.htm?shortname=inpaco20100420485#js-CommentsAnchor
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  Putting the 'probability argument' against abiogenesis in the grave once and for all

  by bohm in

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  amongst the many arguments for and against creation the probability arguments stands out.

  the improbability of generating the necessary proteins by chanceor the genetic information to produce themto balloon beyond comprehension.

  ... the odds of getting even one functional protein of modest length (150 amino acids) by chance from a prebioitc soup is no better than 1 chance in 10164. meyer continues, another way to say that is the probability of finding a functional protein by chance alone is a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion times smaller than the odds of finding a single specific particle among all the particles in the universe.. the evidence for the probability of origin of life arising from darwins warm little pond seems to have vanished beyond the realm of any possibilityregardless of any early earth scenario.. i really, really want to put it in the grave because i think its an embaressment to the theists and thinking humans in general; its right up there with 'noahs ark has been found' and 'humans have less chromosomes than monkeys', but for some reason people dont see through it.

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  aniron, get this (just to mention one) and read it:

  http://www.amazon.com/Climbing-Mount-Improbable-Richard-Dawkins/dp/0393316823
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  Deconversion

  by goddidit in

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  so i gather most of the people on this forum are ex-jws who have seen the error of their ways.. good for you guys.. would that put you in the unique position of knowing exactly how to make a current jw have doubts.. if so, how might that be?.

  i've tried science, philosophy, even simple logic and pointing out the quote mining but to no avail.. i'm not even saying there isn't a god, just that their version of the story blatantly contradicts emperical science in so many ways..

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  Using reason to debunk beliefs that have not been acquired through reason is often a hopeless feat.

  As Bertrand Russell put it:

  "Man is a credulous animal, and must believe something; in the absence of good grounds for belief, he will be satisfied with bad ones." - Bertrand Russell, Unpopular Essays (1950), "Outline of Intellectual Rubbish"
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  Putting the 'probability argument' against abiogenesis in the grave once and for all

  by bohm in

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  amongst the many arguments for and against creation the probability arguments stands out.

  the improbability of generating the necessary proteins by chanceor the genetic information to produce themto balloon beyond comprehension.

  ... the odds of getting even one functional protein of modest length (150 amino acids) by chance from a prebioitc soup is no better than 1 chance in 10164. meyer continues, another way to say that is the probability of finding a functional protein by chance alone is a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion times smaller than the odds of finding a single specific particle among all the particles in the universe.. the evidence for the probability of origin of life arising from darwins warm little pond seems to have vanished beyond the realm of any possibilityregardless of any early earth scenario.. i really, really want to put it in the grave because i think its an embaressment to the theists and thinking humans in general; its right up there with 'noahs ark has been found' and 'humans have less chromosomes than monkeys', but for some reason people dont see through it.

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  behemot: man, i will never learn to spell that word :-). Thanks.

  bohm: I'm sure you will ... probably ;-) Behe
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  Putting the 'probability argument' against abiogenesis in the grave once and for all

  by bohm in

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  amongst the many arguments for and against creation the probability arguments stands out.

  the improbability of generating the necessary proteins by chanceor the genetic information to produce themto balloon beyond comprehension.

  ... the odds of getting even one functional protein of modest length (150 amino acids) by chance from a prebioitc soup is no better than 1 chance in 10164. meyer continues, another way to say that is the probability of finding a functional protein by chance alone is a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion times smaller than the odds of finding a single specific particle among all the particles in the universe.. the evidence for the probability of origin of life arising from darwins warm little pond seems to have vanished beyond the realm of any possibilityregardless of any early earth scenario.. i really, really want to put it in the grave because i think its an embaressment to the theists and thinking humans in general; its right up there with 'noahs ark has been found' and 'humans have less chromosomes than monkeys', but for some reason people dont see through it.

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  ... interesting stuff ... makes sense ... by the way, the correct spelling is "probability"

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  German magazine covers re: church & pedophilia

  by behemot in

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  apparently, german catholics are a bit irate over the cover to a satirical magazine.

  i don't understand why.

  this one just shows a reverent priest, titled "the church today".. and this one actually offers a practical use for christian icons ("does jesus play a role?")..

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  Apparently, German Catholics are a bit irate over the cover to a satirical magazine. I don't understand why. This one just shows a reverent priest, titled "The church today".

  And this one actually offers a practical use for Christian icons ("Does Jesus play a role?").

  This cover is a little more serious, befitting a more serious magazine. It says, "The Hypocrites: the Catholic Church and Sex" — this is a little more accusatory.

  Maybe the church does have good reason to be a bit touchy about it all.

  source: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/04/those_naughty_germans.php
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  Brasil: priest caught in sex act with choirboy

  by behemot in

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  brazil priest detained after pedophilia accusationby tales azzoni (ap) 1 day ago.

  sao paulo police detained an 83-year-old brazilian priest after a congressional hearing produced allegations he molested boys as young as 12 and a television station displayed a sex tape of him in bed with a 19-year-old.. the pedophilia allegations against msgr.

  luiz marques barbosa are the most lurid of several sexual scandals to hit the brazilian church recently, largely because of the videotape that has been widely distributed over the internet.. sen. magno malta, the lawmaker leading the legislature's sexual abuse probe, said that the detention late sunday of barbosa was a milestone in the fight against child abuse in brazil.

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  Brazil priest detained after pedophilia accusation

  By TALES AZZONI (AP) – 1 day ago

  SAO PAULO — Police detained an 83-year-old Brazilian priest after a congressional hearing produced allegations he molested boys as young as 12 and a television station displayed a sex tape of him in bed with a 19-year-old.

  The pedophilia allegations against Msgr. Luiz Marques Barbosa are the most lurid of several sexual scandals to hit the Brazilian church recently, largely because of the videotape that has been widely distributed over the Internet.

  Sen. Magno Malta, the lawmaker leading the legislature's sexual abuse probe, said that the detention late Sunday of Barbosa was a milestone in the fight against child abuse in Brazil. He said the investigation is not an attack on the church, but at suspected child molesters.

  Judge Romulo Vasconcelos, who participated in the congressional probe, told Globo TV on Monday that he requested Barbosa's immediate detention out of fear that the priest would flee the country.

  The case now goes to prosecutors, who will decide whether to file child abuse charges.

  Congressional investigators said that more than 20 witnesses were called and some testified that Barbosa and two other priests in the same northeastern archdiocese had abused boys as young as 12, giving them money, clothes and other gifts.

  Bishop Valerio Breda of the Penedo archdiocese in the northeastern state of Alagoas said recently that all three priests had been suspended and that the church was conducting its own investigation.

  Breda said none of the alleged victims or their families had ever contacted the church with allegations of abuse, but it was cooperating with police.

  One of the accused priests, Edison Duarte, was given immunity for cooperating with authorities, Sen. Malta said in a statement. The third priest — Raimundo Marques — also was being investigated but denied any wrongdoing. He has not been arrested.

  Church members have not responded to calls requesting information on where Barbosa and the other priests had worked in the past. While he holds the rank of monsignor, he apparently has never been a bishop.

  It was not immediately clear if Barbosa had a lawyer.

  Barbosa told investigators that "he is not a pedophile," but after three former altar boys testified he had abused them, he asked for forgiveness, according to Renato Paoliello, a spokesman for Malta.

  Barbosa also told investigators he is not homosexual and said what happened in the video was a one-time incident, Paoliello said.

  The video — secretly filmed in January 2009 — was broadcast by the SBT network last month. It was not clear if the 19-year-old, identified as a former altar boy who had worked with Barbosa for four years, had previous sexual relations with the priest.

  SBT said the video was sent anonymously to the network, and reporters went to the town of 200,000 people to investigate.

  Confronted by the network, Barbosa said that pedophilia "is more (a problem) of homosexuality than pedophilia." Asked if he ever abused boys, Barbosa said he could only answer such a question "in confession" and cut off the interview.

  Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

  source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gDc-ZGlINGW1q-9loLMQZVnMIBHgD9F6C7T80
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  Medjugorje, Bosnia. Anyone ever heard of it?

  by TTWSYF in

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  2. bible

  according to 6 children [aged 10 - 16 years old], jesus's mother, mary has been visiting them everyday for over 28 years [these 'children' are now 38 - 45 yr old adults and preach the good news of the gospels everyday].

  that's what folks say.

  the official position of the catholic church is still under investigation.. anyone familair with this story?.

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  Very controversial stuff, even within the catholic church. Check this:

  http://thecriticalthinker.wordpress.com/2008/11/22/medjugorje-crackdown-marian-apparitions-and-the-miracle-business/

  http://www.medjugorje-artifice.info/