I've received on offer to buy the WT and some time later a tract was left under the door mat , all this in 12yrs. and before that I seldom recall seeing anyone around the neighborhood . I was so livid when I left that I may be on their DNC list.
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Is door to door activity over?
by badcompany injust curious about others experience.
i've been living just a few miles from a kingdom hall for 9 years.
i've been called on 0 times.
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Article: Reveal News-California court guts child abuse ruling against Jehovah's Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.revealnews.org/article/california-court-guts-child-abuse-ruling-against-jehovahs-witnesses/.
california court guts child abuse ruling against jehovahs witnesses.
topics: religion / religion and government .
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Reading all this the last few days made me recall Sinead O'Conner. Many might recall she went on SNL and tore up a picture of the then Pope. She got a lot of blowback b/c of that but she was right. I really admire her for her stance on child abuse within religion. I recall the song she sang, " Fire on Babylon" and I dedicate this to Candace and all who are fighting organized religion for protecting child abusers and molesters.
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Article: Reveal News-California court guts child abuse ruling against Jehovah's Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.revealnews.org/article/california-court-guts-child-abuse-ruling-against-jehovahs-witnesses/.
california court guts child abuse ruling against jehovahs witnesses.
topics: religion / religion and government .
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Also the judgment in this case will help those future lawsuits non in on. . It may also be something that needs to go to the supreme court for a final ruling. I think that if someone has been convicted they should be on the sex register list so that is a warning. In some many cases molesters get away with a lot before they are caught ( if ever). I would think that if there had been complaints against someone the elders would have a duty to warn those with children under 18 but not sure how this could be accomplished. We can't just go vigilante on everyone, In the end, parents will be held responsible.
also, it needs to be pursued b/c registered sex offenders should not be allowed in field service and that is just obvious.
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Article: Reveal News-California court guts child abuse ruling against Jehovah's Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.revealnews.org/article/california-court-guts-child-abuse-ruling-against-jehovahs-witnesses/.
california court guts child abuse ruling against jehovahs witnesses.
topics: religion / religion and government .
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As I think I have stated somewhere else, this put the onus on the parents. The parents are responsible as far as the WTS is concerned anyway. I think this will come down to anyone under 18 will not be allowed to work in FS or other activiess unless with a family member. The new shepherding book says that no one should prevent anyone nor sanction them if they report a child molester to police or other agencies. So as far as they are concerned, they have it covered. Parents should just assume their may be a perp while attending the KH and FS and will have to keep their children by their side OR they will be held responsible for whatever happens to them at kH or FS .
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Conn. Firefighter Who Is Jehovah's Witness Files Federal Discrimination Lawsuit
by Bangalore inconn. firefighter who is jehovah's witness files federal discrimination lawsuit.
http://www.ctlawtribune.com/id=1202722980377/conn-firefighter-who-is-jehovahs-witness-files-federal-discrimination-lawsuit#ixzz3xhkbpznt.
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I have known police and firefighters and they do a lot of things that are community involved. I was told that unless a police officer is already involved with a specific religion, they and the fire dept. prefer they attend the Baptist church. That is for this area. In other areas they might suggest they attend the Catholic church. They are expected to set a good example and be involved with voting and other privilges of being a citizen of the USA. Attending rallies, parades, and other things falls into this category. He's supposed to be a brother and have their backs. They become family.
I feel sorry for the other guys in his unit. Maybe they can find him a desk job . I'd hate to have to work with him.
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Candace Conti - Consequence for Elders
by The Searcher inbodies of elders around the world will soon (tm) receive a nicely worded letter from the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses, telling them that local elders are now responsible for ensuring that no perverts are allowed to be alone with any children on any kind of witness business, otherwise, the boe will be accountable to the courts - not the org!.
however, if the elders are aware that bro.
& sister oblivious sometimes ask bro.
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I think the only reasonable and safe response the wts and boe could have is to NOT allow minors ( under 18) to work with anyone but parents or family members. That would be how I would want it if I was on the boe . I would just limit who could work with minors to family.( as long as family weren't know pedos'
I knew in the mid 80's this day was coming and the wheels of justice are slow but it has arrived. I wouldn't be an elder for love nor money.
Further I do not know how registered sex offenders can go in field service b/c of the limitations of distance from children. How???
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LATEST NEWS: CANDANCE CONTI VERIDICT READY - WT LOST!!!!!!!
by Viva la Vida ini'm not an expert but that is my understanding of this: .
opinion filed.. (signed published) the judgment against defendants on the negligence count is affirmed.
the judgment against watchtower on the cause of action for punitive damages is reversed with directions to enter judgment for watchtower on punitive damages.
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LATEST NEWS: CANDANCE CONTI VERIDICT READY - WT LOST!!!!!!!
by Viva la Vida ini'm not an expert but that is my understanding of this: .
opinion filed.. (signed published) the judgment against defendants on the negligence count is affirmed.
the judgment against watchtower on the cause of action for punitive damages is reversed with directions to enter judgment for watchtower on punitive damages.
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This is a win and will effect how field service and other congo activities are conducted. It has to b/c the wts has been found negligent of not providing proper supervision for children. I know if I was among the boe's I'd make sure that children only worked with their family and I bet that is what is going to happen. When I say children I think it will extend all the way to age 18 b/c anyone under 18. Also, if it is known that a perp is a family member, can't imagine how they handle this one, except that the child can't be around that family member alone while engaged in wts activities.
This will just become a cat and mouse game of people lying and saying they did not see a child with someone not their parents. PBROW, I completely agree with you , I am sorry I was ever a member of this rotten org. that only cares about itself and not the welfare of anyone .
This victory and how it is based may help others cases to go forward easier. I hope someone eventually takes this to the SCOTUS b/c if we do have a duty to WARN. May there be many more victories for the walking wounded and hopefully it will greatly inconvenience the congo's and the wts. I know if I was a member of a boe and having to take all the responsibility I'd be thinking of jumping ship.
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NEW 2012 Elders book with 2015 Amendments
by Newly Enlightened inthanks to jw archive wiki we have a pdf of the new elders book.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/mz9z38909t3fh7c/2012-shepherd-the-flock-of-god-ks10_e.pdf?dl=0.
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part 12 paragraph 21, I have the last half. wow the victim and parents are on trial. They must have a good reputation. Reminds me of rape cases where the morals of the person raped are more important than the truth of the matter.
The following questions should be answered with regard
to the accuser: (1) What is the level of maturity
of the child or youth? (2) Is he (or she) describing
conduct that one his age would not normally know
about? (3) Is the child or his parents known to be serious,
mature? (4) Is his memory consistent, or is it
intermittent, or does it involve repressed memories?
(w95 11/1 pp. 25-26) (5) What is the reputation of
the parents? (6) Are they spiritually and emotionally
mature? After carefully considering the matter, the
branch office will then give you direction as to what
information about the allegation should be shared, if
any, with the elders of the new congregation.
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Witnesses of Jehovah film from about 1986
by violias inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve3zp9fiyiq.
film witnesses of jehovah .
note 37:35 .
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My hubby and I had heard that there were unauthorized assemblies being held (80's ) and some of the "apostate" tapes came from those gatherings. We were never invited to any of them but we did hear about them. I was actively opposing the boe in 86-- if only I had known how many more people there were. I knew they were wrong not from reading apostate literature-- I knew they were wrong from reading the Bible, even the NWT shows them to be false prophets. I knew there were some apostate groups but we never were invited into them either. These apostate groups infilitred the congos and some were elders and MS .. In one congo I atteneded I found out both a MS and elder were apart of the apostate group. The elders were actively trying to out these groups ( mostly younger people late teens and 20's ) but they hung together really tight.
I get sick thinking about this time period . It was a horrible upheaval in the Borg , from Bethel to the local KH. You never knew who was spying for which side. I still want to slap someone silly when I think of them trying to force my old demented mother to get rid of her early WT books. I still have them, they belonged to my grandfather .
I grew up in this Org. and did not even recognize them from about 73 onward. When 75 failed people left and the accusations were flying. Infighting among boe's and some really dirty stuff happened to some nice people.
I hope they Rot in H*ll.