Posts by violias

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NEW BLOOD CARD w/ FORCED COMPLIANCE also LEGALISM

by apocalypse in

i have looked around and i don't see this covered, so i am starting a thread.. 1) the new "blood card" goes beyond being just a "blood card".. 2) a new edict concerning compliance.. pay attention to the changes.. first, the new card is termed "advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment".

the big change with the card itself is that it includes an 'override' of your "power of attorney".

this is huge.

violias

When I stopped attending I did more than rip my card apart. I went to 2 local hospitals that I might be taken to ( or where I had been before) and made sure they deleted it out of their computer system. In one case I had to check 2 different times to make sure I was not associated with any bloodless programs . Anytime I have to check in for any procedure I make sure I tell them my status now. It could save my life one day.

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Adultery before becoming a JW???

by James Mixon in

a young couple we were very close to, we both got baptized at the same assembly.. i knew the young man well, we went through grade school and high school together.. he served in the military also, he married before shipping out to viet nam.. i had heard of rumors about his wife while he was overseas.

this guy was a virgin when he got.

married, raised in a strict religious family.. two years of marriage they were baptized as jw.

violias

It does not matter if they were jws are not. If he did not know about the adultery he has every right to make a decision about whether to continue the marriage or not. He can choose to forgive or divorce. That is his right. The elders should not have told him what they did b/c they are wrong.

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Good idea or bad idea?

by stephanie61092 in

first and foremost, thank you so much to so many of you who have reached out to me over the past few days since my post on sunday.

i'm not totally in the best mental state, however, i do have a very small amount of people that i can lean on for support.

i relayed my feelings to a friend (my only friend, really), who took the initiative to inform my family.

violias

I agree, don't give up on therapy. It took about 2 years for therapist to break through the wall I had put up to protect the WTS. Therapy was my saving grace.

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I have too much crap!! How to declutter/dehoard.....

by Muddy Waters in

some areas of our home are very nice, tidy, clean.

and other rooms are just junk and clutter and clothes and papers.... omg.

and now that we are getting older, we realize that we face a time of transition -- and this is hard to cope with too, as we believed the lie that we would never get old, etc.

violias

I have this issue too. I finally decided that I just am not dealing well with not having kids to take care of, big meals to cook and I still believe I might be able to wear that really cute outfit I wore 20-25 yrs ago. Frequently when I do get to the point I can discarde something, I worry I could have used it and sometimes that is true--I threw out something I shouldn't have. I am not a bad hoarder like you see on TV, no nasty house or bugs etc but I have shoes and clothes from 25 yrs ago that I just can't get rid of. They are piled on beds and 2 rooms in my house are almost unusable b/c of clutter. Our bedroom has about 6 boxes of clothes on the floor , top or dressers and in closets right now. We can still use it however. Also, I noted something else I am doing. When I do get the ability to throw out-- I'll be darn If I don't go buy more to replace ii.

I read recently that one way to De- clutter is by asking yourself " Does this item make me feel cherished ? I know that sounds hippy dippy but it sort of resounds with me. I started looking at piles of clothes and I think it might work. I intend to give that method a try.

Selling things on ebay or amazon requires I mail them out and dealing with a buyer. I would almost rather put a "free" sign on them in the yard.

saw this topic and just needed to vent

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The Demons were messing with me last night!

by olongapo joe in

jw
friends

so said my pops one morning.

we were visiting my sister in eastern tennessee and the night before after everyone else went to bed pops was watching tv when all of a sudden and completely on it's own the tv changed to the tonight show, holy smokes!!

must be demons cause pops didn't change it!

violias

Back when garage door openers and remotes were new shiny things that not everyone had I recall our TV being turned off and on a few times. We were afraid it was the demons to be sure until we figured out that garage door openers ( at least at that time) could interfere with a TV signal.

Also once heard a phone call made from a private home to a business on TV. I copied down the number and called the business to let them know I had just heard a phone call to their number. It was 1969 so who knows how that happened.

I bet a lot of demon stories are just electronics gone wild.

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"Even if it isn't the truth, it's still the best way to live"

by Simon in

have you heard that old chestnut?

i have.. typically it's the last resort when you have dismantled a jws beliefs and they have no way of defending them.

they know they are beat so they come out with that one.. its effectively an admission that you are right and they have no argument but they are still going to attend meetings because they like the social club.. what a lame way to defend your faith..

violias

Heard that many times , along with "If this ( jws) is brainwashing, then good, I want my brain washed clean..." or some such crazy thing to say.

Many jws are just there b/c of the social club.

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JAMES WOODS is in the hospital (heart related)

by Terry in

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friends

james woods has been a long time regular on this discussion group in all of its incarnations.. he had some kind of "heart-attack" and has been in dallas' emergency ward for several days.

he also has a blood clot doctors are working to break up.. 972-261-4412 is his cell number.. he was in a talking mood yesterday afternoon.. i bet it wouldn't kill him to get some well-wishes.. james goes back a long way as an ex-jw.

he knows where the bodies are buried :).

violias

Sorry to hear that. I hope he is feeling well soon.

V

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The extent that desperate cults will go to keep control of their youth

by JakeM2012 in

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/14/us/new-york-church-assault-case/.

(cnn)a counseling session on the spiritual state of two brothers turned physical at word of life christian church in new hartford, new york, resulting in the death of a young man and serious injuries to his brother, new hartford police chief michael inserra said wednesday.. .

their parents, bruce t. leonard, 65, and deborah r. leonard, 59, each face one count of first-degree manslaughter, a class b felony.

violias

At first I thought this was the Word of Faith church. Their used to be in Texas, major big deal in the 80's. Some scandal happened and they left Texas and moved to Florida.

I wonder if the Word of Life is similar or if it is a part of the Pentecostal church? They are a very fundy group and crazy enough to do something like what is described in article. They excommunicate folks just like jws. Scary group. They seldom call themselves Pentecostals now due to such bad PR. They go by names like Bible Church , Four Square , and sometimes they call selves nondenominational church's. they are very deceptive in trying to lure folks in, folks who would run the other way if they heard the name Pentecostals.

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Participate In The EX-JW Personality Test!

by C0ntr013r in

first of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.

but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.

so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .

violias

ISTP-T

only about 5% of women are this type and may have been called "tom boys' since childhood. Bingo.

My personality has changed a great deal since youth when I was very outgoing and social. The WTS took it all out of me, and now, lets just say learned that ruthless people are in jws too and better protect yourself.

I miss my old self.

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1975 all over again!!!

by John Aquila in

wt study edition jan. 2015.

here is the bait:.

as the number of kingdom proclaimers increases and as we near the end of this system of things, there is an urgent need for more facilities.

violias

I clearly recall 1975 and no one dared to say the end was not coming. You'd have been an apostate to say that. I knew it wasn't, the scriptures even say no one knows etc. I must admit that the world conditions now , thanks to 24/7 cable news channels do give one the feeling that some sort of end is upon us. I guess the solution is to stop watching the news.

So many crazy things were said from the platform, fire breathing sermons about Armageddon. I just blew it off, I knew they were wrong. Strangely I don't feel that sure this time. I am not attending meeting at all --not for some time. Many people in " world" think an end is near too.

I will take my chances with a loving God and not Jws, So if the apocalyptic angels of death come to my door I will have some lambs blood ( or something similar) smeared on the doorpost. Maybe the angels will just pass by my house. Worked once, might again. :)>