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  Jesus came in 1874 and then changed to 1914, no problem, per FDS

  by garybuss in

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  prefatory note .

  (to watch tower reprints wtb&ts 1919) .

  the watch tower is unique among all the publications in the world.

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  barry

  Being the only Adventist here I beleive Refiner has the best grasp on Adventist beleif. The 1844 event to Adventists is the great dissappointement When they beleived jesus would come no SDAs beleive anything of an invisible comming in 1874 this was a splinter group.

  The SDAs have reinterpreted the 1844 event as being the beginning of the investigative judgement where the books of record are examined to determine who will be saved.

  All adventists now beleive the second comming is in the future and a visible event.

  The investigative judgement in 1844 is seen as the antitype of the day of atonement in the jewish system.

  Today only the very conservative SDAs beleive in the investigative judgement as it was originally taught no SDA theologan will put his name to such an idea. The mainstream members while giveing lip service to the doctrine understand it in a far more gospel way because most beleive when a person becomes a christian he passes from death to life.

  While I go to a mainstream church I support 'Good News Unlimited a splinter group of Adventists who have left such doctrine as an investigative behind in the dustbin of failed doctrine.

  In fact there are many such splinter groups in adventism But much of the conflict between differing groups is now in the past. Barry
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  I got invited to Church

  by refiners fire in

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  hmmm.

  well ive been nibbling around the ?exclusive brethren?

  cult again and

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  barry

  They might do you some good Refiner go there and tell us what happens. Most Baptists have a bible study before the church service where you can make a contribution to the study. I dunno about the exclusive ones though. Barry
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  A friend needs some advice...

  by onacruse in

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  2. friends

  one of our close friends is on the verge of an almost inevitable confrontation with her dad re: her fading.

  her family is very devoted to the wts, and she expects that she'll have only one shot at presenting her defense to him.

  she has 5 issues in particular about which she feels very strongly (not necessarily in this order):.

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  barry

  I would suggest to not worry about the cross thing talk about things that are really important and you will make a bigger impact. Barry
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  The Watchtower 1st September says "Learn to answer in youre own words'

  by barry in

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  2. friends

  fair dinkum thats what it says.

  i realise that when i went to meetings it was done by some people but was frowned on but now here it is on page 21 "our publications need not be quoted verbatim.

  jehovahs witnesses do not simply repeat what their publications say.

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  barry

  Some people get their words mixed up and their thoughts confused surely you cant blame a person for weaknesses of the flesh. Barry
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  The Watchtower 1st September says "Learn to answer in youre own words'

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  fair dinkum thats what it says.

  i realise that when i went to meetings it was done by some people but was frowned on but now here it is on page 21 "our publications need not be quoted verbatim.

  jehovahs witnesses do not simply repeat what their publications say.

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  barry

  Fair dinkum thats what it says. I realise that when I went to meetings it was done by some people but was frowned on but now here it is on page 21 "Our publications need not be quoted verbatim. Jehovahs Witnesses do not simply repeat what their publications say. Will this be new openess in the witness religion. Barry
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  Great meetup at Lake Ginninderra

  by barry in

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  yes i had to leave early as the good wife was shopping at the mall and i didnt want to be sleeping in the doghouse for being late.. kim, mr kim, ossie, mrs ossie and mr and mrs bliss were all there as well as some other exwitnesses.

  lots of good food slowly cooked was had by all [the electric bbqs were free but im not sure if the council likes to pay there electricity bill].

  and ossie had plenty of that red shiraz, there probably still up their drinking that.. barry

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  barry

  Yes I had to leave early as the good wife was shopping at the mall and I didnt want to be sleeping in the doghouse for being late.

  Kim, Mr Kim, Ossie, Mrs Ossie and Mr And Mrs Bliss were all there as well as some other exwitnesses. Lots of good food slowly cooked was had by all [The electric BBQs were free but Im not sure if the council likes to pay there electricity bill]. And Ossie had plenty of that red shiraz, there probably still up their drinking that.

  Barry
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  Aussie Bible 'a bobby-dazzler'

  by barry in

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  2. friends

  stone the crows.

  the bible society of new south wales has launched a book that uses the language of blokes and sheilas to a fair dinkum story.

  the aussie bible well bits of it anyway.

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  barry

  Brummie we use those words and a lot more as well like fair dinkum. Barry
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  Aussie Bible 'a bobby-dazzler'

  by barry in

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  2. friends

  stone the crows.

  the bible society of new south wales has launched a book that uses the language of blokes and sheilas to a fair dinkum story.

  the aussie bible well bits of it anyway.

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  barry

  Stone the crows. The Bible Society of New South Wales has launched a book that uses the language of blokes and sheilas to a fair dinkum story.

  The Aussie Bible well bits of it anyway. The story of the good Samaritan becomes the story of the 'good bloke' for example.

  Reverend Peter Jensen, the Anglican archbishop of Sydney and the president of the bible society in New South Wales joined Mr Richards and singer Colin Buchanan at the launch in Sydney on August 21

  John Anderson, the deputy prime minister of Australia, writes in the foreword of the book about the importance of Australians familiarising themselves again with the teachings of the Bible.

  The books a great read, says Pastor Ray Coombe assistant to the president of the South Pacific Division of SDA.

  Barry
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  Shocking or funny experiences at the memorial

  by Dimples in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember at one memorial one of the sisters invited someone other than a bible study.

  imagine as they passed the wine and the kingdom hall (you know at this time the place is always silent) to have this person stand up, hold her glass of wine up in the air and at the top of her lungs yell out... i drink this wine for jesus christ who died for me!!!

  another time with the passing of the bread, i had the aisle seat and handed the brother the plate so he could start another row.

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  barry

  Before I knew much at all about the JW religion I was asked to the memorial by a JW who was a bricklayer who did a lot of work for my dad. I told him I would go to the memorial and also I asked my minister to come too. The bloke that invited me wasnt very impressed with me for asking the minister to come . Ive wrote about it before on here Barry
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  Why Aren't Jehovah's Witnesses Allowed To Freely Express Themselves?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  it's a simple fact.

  jw's cannot freely express themselves.

  they can't freely tell another about a doubt or a question that they might have for fear they could be exposed to the elders.

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  barry

  The witnesses do have an opportunity at the WT study to answer and give there opinions its only a matter of time before this will happen and when it does the witness religion will change in and even the GB wont have the control they once had. Barry