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  JWs, ex-JWs and Non-JWs

  by CeriseRose in

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  i'm going to preface these comments with a disclaimer: in no way am i meaning these observations to be inflamatory, exclusionary, or to devalue anyone.

  i believe everyone has a right to their opinion, and observations, and to share themwithin the terms of the board.

  i also believe that there is learning to be found from a variety of sources.

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  barry

  Gday Ozzie,

  Its better than that 39 you had in Sydney the other day is it Global warming or what? these erratic patterns.
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  JWs, ex-JWs and Non-JWs

  by CeriseRose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm going to preface these comments with a disclaimer: in no way am i meaning these observations to be inflamatory, exclusionary, or to devalue anyone.

  i believe everyone has a right to their opinion, and observations, and to share themwithin the terms of the board.

  i also believe that there is learning to be found from a variety of sources.

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  barry

  Im SDA and I beleive I know as much about cults as anyone here. There are many different varieties of SDA some very cultic which are no different to the WT cult.

  The worst cult is a offshoot of SDAs in the 1920s called the Shepards Rod this cult developed into the cult at Waco in Texas some SDAs joined this cult a school teacher at the Church I go to joined but escaped the disaster. My wife is Catholic and she still calls me a Davidian because of that.

  In SDAs there are cults within the Church not far from where I live there is a group who beleive that if you are a beleiver you wouldnt need to go to a doctor because you wouldnt get sick. They dont put there cultic idears into practice because one of my friends who is SDA is married to one but they still go to the doctor. These groups have there own meetings.

  Another group of SDAs in a place called Deniliquin about 300km from here are very strange. There women where long dresses have buns in there hair and look like something out of little house on the prairy. Im thinking of going out to see them one day and visit there Church.

  I think I know just as much about cults as anyone as Ive said before my x wife was a JW study and that gave me a few problems.

  If anyone wants to know about Cults maybe I would have some information from a different perspective. Barry
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  Strange Encounter With Dubs Just Now

  by Stephanus in

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  i was just up at a neighbour's place, standing at the door talking to her, when two dub ladies came up the path on what turned out to be a return visit.

  the neighbour said "not today" and hid inside and i dismissed myself, following the ladies out of the yard.

  what was strange is that they didn't acknowledge me at all, even though i was right behind them.

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  barry

  Steph Its that beard cut the bloody thing off.
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  How much should home owner's insurance cost in a mortgage?

  by Elsewhere in

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  on my "good faith" estimate that the mortgage company gave me several months ago they put $100 per month.

  i have been calling around and i'm hearing things like $3250 a year ($271 a month).. did the mortgage company twist the numbers to help reel me in?

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  We have insurance here in Australia for house and contents house value of $300,000 and the annual price is about $300. I think I would get another quote Elswhere.
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  I'm a new churchgoer, communion question

  by pennycandy in

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  i've only in the last month started attending a non-denominational church.

  i was absolutely shocked by what i experienced, and not because of the lightening i thought might strike me down as i crossed the threshhold.

  while many were attentive and friendly, no one pried into my religious history, or tried to railroad me into coming back.

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  barry

  Some Churches have footwashing before communion the SDAs do that and some others. The majority of protestants including the cultic SDAs have open communion and invite all who have been baptised to partake. Barry
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  Pitcairn Islanders - Paedophiles?

  by Englishman in

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  2. child-abuse

  the descendents of the crew of captain blighs ship, hms bounty, still live on the tiny uk dependancy of pitcairn island in the pacific.

  they number a mere 47, the islands total population.. many have been accused of molesting under-age children, and the uk government has set up court on the island to resolve the matter.

  story here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3702448.stm.

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  I just got back from the SDA church and in the Record a free periodical published weekly I found an artical on Pitcain Island.

  The heading read. Church sends support for Pitcairn Island.

  The South Pacific Division has sent pastoral support to remote Pitcairn Island during an upcoming trial. Pastor Ray Coombe and his wife, Daphne, departed for the Island on Sept. 19.

  In 1999, allegations of abuse rocked the tiny island community of just under 50 people. After much attention from the international media, the island is now bracing itself for the trial of seven Pitcairn Islanders.

  It will take Pastor and Mrs Coombe five days to get to the island by boat and plane, but Pastor Coombe says it will be "well woth it.'

  The church and community there needs pastoral support during the trial and media attention. We want them to know we care for them,' he says.

  The Coombes will stay on the island until mid October when Pitcairn,s replacement pastor is due to arrive. The island has been without a pastor for the past few months.

  Lyle Burgoyne, serving as pastor and medical officer, enjoyed both his roles on Pitcairn, but had to return earlier this year when the British government stipend ended in order to assign a doctor to Pitcairn.

  The island once boasted an all Adventist population, but the membership has dropped significantly over the past 60 years. Now only eight to ten of the islanders regularly attend worship services.

  The Seventh-day Adventist Church in the South Pacific asks church members to keep the people of Pitcairn Island in their prayers. Adam Sparke.

  Because of all this my wife calls me a Davidian again. Remember those people in Waco Texas she called me a Davidian because of all that because they were an offshoot of the Adventist Church in the 1920s. Im so glad you people on here dont call me a Davidian. Barry
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  In Reality, Are Jehovah's Witnesses A Divided Group???

  by minimus in

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  jws are supposed to be a "united people".

  do you believe that is true?

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  barry

  Ive heard it said there are more divisions in Catholisism than in the whole of Protestantism and it is because of the hierarchael nature of the Catholic church. That being the case it would also be true of the JWs only while there is extreme high control the diversity doesnt surface. So just wait when the JWs have more freedom. There will be an explosion of differing beleifs. Barry
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  Are You SURE JWs Don't Have The Truth???

  by minimus in

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  has anyone here ever questioned whether or not they made the right decision to leave the "truth"?......i'm sure glad i'm out!

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  Comming from the SDAs where there is many doctrinal positions the JWs were very attractive with a universal truth everyone beleiving the same and they seemed to have very high moral standards. When I found out how they treat there own people with shunning and dissfellowshiping and such I changed my mind. Barry
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  SDA Church spawns a Cult

  by barry in

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  yes thats right folks lock up you re friends and relatives and daughters because this cult makes the jws look weak in the cult market.. .

  the lord our righteousness church and some of the teachings are.. .

  micheal travesser has the soul of jesus and other members can become gods.. .

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  barry

  you blokes have a serious cult problem.
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  SDA Church spawns a Cult

  by barry in

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  yes thats right folks lock up you re friends and relatives and daughters because this cult makes the jws look weak in the cult market.. .

  the lord our righteousness church and some of the teachings are.. .

  micheal travesser has the soul of jesus and other members can become gods.. .

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  barry

  Gday Amazing 1914,

  Being a third generation SDA myself the beleif of the SDA church is that all christians go to heaven after the millenium the paradise earth is established. The paradise earth is not talked about much.

  As for no hell fire I have read even the Pope doesnt beleive that. Hell to many christians is the understanding of separation from God.

  Youre half right about the SDAs being a non christian cult. A study of thousands of hours and extensive meetings with Adventist officials by Barnhouse and Martin in the 1950 established SDA was not a anti christian cult, but rather a somewhat heterodox [i.e,departing from accepted doctrine] christian denomination. http://web2.airmail.nett/billtod/crisda.txt

  Of course the reason for so much confusion about SDA is there is a wide range of beleif from traditional to evangelical beleif and many varied ministries many not supported by the church but still accepted. Some SDAs are Arian like the JWs and have their literature with the church logo while at the same time most beleive the Trinity.

  The traditional SDAs beleive the prophet Ellen White has scriptural authority and this is I beleive the big problem with these ongoing cults after all if you beleive Ellen White is a Prophet any tom Dick or Harry could be one all you have to do is plagerise the writings of other christians as Ellen White has done.

  Jim when us Evangelical Adventists are finnished reforming the SDAs we are all joining the JWs. After all we will have the experiance it will be a piece of cake.

  PS That link in my first post appears to be a traditional SDA site I would have little agreement with their doctrine but it was usefull to find information about the LOR church. Barry