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  Who was the author of Revelation?

  by worldlygirl in

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  2. bible

  i was watching a program on the history channel the other night and it was mentioned that the author of the book of revelation is not known.

  it is thought to be "john" but they said it could have either been john the baptist, the apostle john, or maybe a completely different "john.

  what is the org's view?

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  barry

  The book of Revelation was the last book to be accepted into the canon because the churches in the east beleived Revelation wasnt written by John., Barry
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  Can Jesus "Save" you from Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by jst2laws in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recieved a pm from a born again christian asking how i might aid him in helping a relative excape the wt.

  while i am not a born again christian, the teaching of jesus that we can remove guilt and be right with god just by believing it is done helped me out.

  gal 3:11-13: consequently, it is clear that no one can ever win god's favor by trying to keep the jewish laws, because god has said that the only way we can be right in his sight is by faith.

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  Gday Steve ,

  I beleive you are absolutely right you are talking about the truths that changed the shape of Europe at the time of the reformation.Barry
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  Salary at Bethel

  by sandy in

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  what is the current monthly salary for the bethelites?

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  barry

  I still dont know how they get away with 20 bucks a week. Teachers at SDA schools were being paid less than the going rate but that was only about 10% less than other teachers. The SDA teachers threatened to strike here in Australia and had to then be paid the going rate.

  I hope the WT doesnt spread the religious order around other religious workers will be working for less than peanuts. Barry
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  X-box or play station...

  by Panda in

  1. forum
  2. tech-support

  please advise this old woman ... which should i get for a christmas gift play station or x-box?

  on one games sight (starwars) they say x-box but i've never heard anything about that??

  help

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  barry

  My 7yo wanted an xbox its under the tree for xmas present but I wouldnt know what is best.Barry
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  Star of Bethlehem

  by undercover in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the bible, only in matthew(i think) speaks of the star that the astrologers followed to find the baby jesus.

  the wts has claimed that this star obviously was a product of satan, since the astrolgers first wound up in jersusalem, met herod, who conspired with them to locate the baby.

  after that, the astrologers continued on to bethlehem.. a couple of questions:.

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  barry

  The SDAs dont beleive the star was put there by the decil or that the Maggi had any evil intent. The slant on xmas from the JW perspective was totaly new to me. Barry
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  How do you feel about Christmas?

  by AJN in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you enjoy it after so many years of not celebrating?

  does it have any relevance to you now?.

  i live in nz and it doesn't feel like xmas to me cause it's the middle of summer - it just doesn't compute so that helps really all in all.

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  When I was a kid we allways had a tree from the forest and I allways remember the smell of the pine it allways reminds me of xmas.My wife gets hay fever and we cant have anything but a fake plastic pine tree in the house and its just not the same.

  Also even though we have summer at xmas here in Australia we have snow decorations and snow on cards we send people so one of these days I would just like to spend xmas in the snow. Barry
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  When did the watchtower become a cult?

  by Gadget in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from looking at various cult information, and warning signs of an unsafe group i beleive the jw's to be a cult, but how did they become one?

  it started as a religious periodical in the 1870s, and somehow progressed to being a faith, a religion, and then from there progressed to become a cult.

  when did this happen, and how?

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  barry

  Christian sects have agreements between each other to not accuse each other of being a cult and some could be described in that way.

  I think it is more accurate to describe the WT as a high control group. Barry
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  JWs get a mention on 'Adventists for Tomorrow'.

  by barry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there is also some sda related stuff there so dont get it mixed up.

  the link is www.atomorrow.com/messages/1780/923.html?1021780761

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  The GC is the General conference of SDA just like the GB. Well they do come together people from all around the world and debate issues but are like the GB in that they are hirerarchical. Barry
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  JWs get a mention on 'Adventists for Tomorrow'.

  by barry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there is also some sda related stuff there so dont get it mixed up.

  the link is www.atomorrow.com/messages/1780/923.html?1021780761

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  barry

  There is also some SDA related stuff there so dont get it mixed up. The link is www.atomorrow.com/messages/1780/923.html?1021780761
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  They have nothing to loose by shunning

  by garybuss in

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  2. friends

  if my attitude toward the shunners is to be waiting for them with a full pardon, waiting for them to quit shunning me so i can shower them with love as their reward for being jerks, they have nothing to lose by continuing the shunning.

  they don't have a dog in the fight.

  if children who shun parents were notified by the parents that they will loose their inheritance if they continue the shunning, all of a sudden they have something to loose by shunning.. .

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  Garybuss,

  Youre right to be annoyed this shunning just doesnt make sense to me . The lady I studied with had to shun her daughter and I told her it was unchristian for anyone to do that I told her rules are made to be broken. Barry