What an unhealthy lot you JWs are dying at church like that. Ive only witnessed one incident when an elderly lady took a heart turn and the sermon was immediately stopped the ambulance was called but the dear sister recovered. This same sister always claimed she had visions from God would tell the minister or others in charge about the visions but no one told me what the visions were all about.
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125The day a brother died in my Hall, & the unbelievable events that followed.
by Mr Ben inthis one really freaked me out.
i was so brainwashed at the time i found a way to justify it.
i think i?ve been repressing my anger about this and now i need to vent.
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"Hell-fire/lake of fire" teachers, Is Jehovah going to "burn"unsaved babies
by booker-t ini was recently discussing this topic with my "pentacostal" fire and brimstone preaching granduncle.
he said that alot of christians try to be "politically correct" and wiggle out of this question for fear of "turning" people away.
he said that most born-again christians that believe in hell fire do believe that jehovah is going to torment babies in hell if their parents have not accepted jesus as their lord and savior.
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I beleive a God of love has to demonstrate justice because if people exist on other planets and the whole of heaven will be watching to see Gods justice in the judgement. If there isnt justice then God is no better than Satan. In the judgement the owness is on God. I have a problem with an eternal hell myself as I havent been brought up to beleive in a everlasting hell. -
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Im nearly 666 posts
by barry inanyone have any problems when they reached 666 posts im not superstitious but it is the number of the beast if i remember correctly
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Anyone have any problems when they reached 666 posts Im not superstitious but it is the number of the beast if I remember correctly
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Seventh Day Adventists
by poppers inis there anyone here who can give me the short course of wacky beliefs sda's have?
i'm too lazy to find them for myself.
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JW facts to answer youre question about being a high control group the situation is like this. There isnt the same control over people in the SDAs. In a typical church there may be a large group that have their own meetings on a tuesday night but faithfully go to church on the weekend and pay a tithe [ 10% of their income to the church]. they may call themselves "The Concerned Bretherine". Their may be still another group who beleive differently in some areas to the first group who also have their own meetings and are more concerned with the protestant doctrine of " righteousness by faith". Their may be a group including the minister that are what we might call liberals.
The first group may want to control the church but cant because they havent got the numbers in fact if they did they would make the church into something that resembles the WT society. Overall there is usually a sort of balance where everyones opinion can be heard. Something the way the rest of society has people of different but hopfully everyone contributes.
With the diversity there is no way to have the sort of control the WT society has if the things I read here are correct.
Often when new SDA publications and books are published they are claimed by one group or the other to be hericy. This happened when Questions on Doctrine was printed in the 50S
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Seventh Day Adventists
by poppers inis there anyone here who can give me the short course of wacky beliefs sda's have?
i'm too lazy to find them for myself.
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Gday Restrangled, Isnt Florida a largely retirement area? That would explain the large number of churches their. All that healthfull liveing means SDAs live longer and more healthy lives than the general population. Off course the SDAs that dont practice health reform have the same ailments as the general population.
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Seventh Day Adventists
by poppers inis there anyone here who can give me the short course of wacky beliefs sda's have?
i'm too lazy to find them for myself.
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Gday Poppers Yea I like Fawlty towers it is currently being played here in oz.
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Seventh Day Adventists
by poppers inis there anyone here who can give me the short course of wacky beliefs sda's have?
i'm too lazy to find them for myself.
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Ive never heard about the ban on immunision thing SDAs run many hospitals around the world and dont refuse any medical procedures. A few small Adventist groups wear old fashioned cloths like the Amish but most live in the modern world . Adventists arent as united as the JWs and there are many small sub groups with strange idears.
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Seventh Day Adventists
by poppers inis there anyone here who can give me the short course of wacky beliefs sda's have?
i'm too lazy to find them for myself.
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Gday Poppers, Im a third generation SDA I argue with there doctrine especially the investigative doctrine every opportunity and they still havent asked me to leave so Im stayin
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did russell coin the phrase "in the truth"
by headmath inas in the context such as :.
is he/she in the truth?.
i just hate that miserable hyrocritical phrase.
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The SDAs use the term' the truth ' also in the SDAs a theologan Bob Brinsmead started a movement called the Awakening movement and published a magazine called "Present Truth". Churches all over the world were seriously divided by his movement but he often reversed his theology when proven wrong.
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Seventh Day Adventists
by poppers inis there anyone here who can give me the short course of wacky beliefs sda's have?
i'm too lazy to find them for myself.
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Im a Seventh Day Adventist and the most wacky doctrine we have is called the investigative judgement. The doctrine states since 1844 there has been a work of judgement that will end when christ comes. The outline for the doctrine is taken from the old testament when the high priest went into the into the most holy place once a year on theday of atonement. The doctrine promotes perfectionism and a large number of SDAs but not a majority are perfectionists and have a roman catholic theology. For a church that claims itself to be protestant and have a roman catholic theology has been an eye opener. The bottom line beling the gospel is compromised.
Many in the church dont agree with this doctrine including myself and this leaves the church seriously fractured.