Posts by Jez

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Favorite Movie

by Ghosthunter in

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i'm sure there's been several threads regarding this subject.

but, i thought i would start one again.

sunday afternoon is my favorite time to watch movies.

Jez

How can I make real friends? (not)

Pirates of the Caribean for fantasy sex with Johnny Depp that night

Charlie's angels for a good belly chuckle

City of angels for a good cry

Dreamcatcher for a good scare

Matrix for a great mind bend

Lorenzo's oil for a reminder about the strength of humanity and love

Just watched Elf. HILARIOUS. Gonna buy that one.

Val Helsing for the amazing effects

I was surprised to see others say Fargo. I own it, and find it strangely hilarious.

Pleasantville for a great reminder that a perfect society is colorless.

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Whats Your View on most JW's

by XBEHERE in

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its safe to assume that many jw's come on here and just read posts.

in fact i did it for several months before posting anything.

i have seen many, many helpful posts giving encouragement, etc.

I am angry and I vent that because it is like I was spirtually, mentally and emotionally violated by an organization that I loved and trusted as much as my own father. I would have died for them, THINKING that I was dying for God!!! Oh yes, I am very angry because I have now seen the undeniable truth, they are just another religion/cult/sect/high control group and I was duped.

I think to myself, "How could I not have seen or known?"

Answer: They made sure I did not. They hide things from me. They told me what to read and what not to. Who to talk to and who not to. I BELIEVED.

Now, they hold my family from me. That is as blatently against bible principles as you can get.

Not all the ppl in it are evil, I agree with ppl on here who said it is management. HOW I WISH WE WOULD ALL GO ON STRIKE.

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Were You Afraid Of The Elders?.Did Ya Love Em?...What Was Your View of Them

by minimus in

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i've heard of brothers and sisters saying that they have "prayed for the elders because they love them for their hard work and sacrifice".

i've also heard of how some in the congregation were petrified of the elders and of course, there were those that said they were either only men or that they were direct representatives of jehovah god himself.

Jez

I loved them. They were always kind to me and loved me very much. I talked to them about many things over the years. This past time, I still don't blame them, because despite all they knew, they had no choice but dole out the punishment because they had to follow orders.

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I got backmy sick son,,, just to lose the rest ofmy family

by wildfire in

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i am so upset ,,its hard to even write this out...but i know i must.....someof you know of my past...coming from a very difficult marriage with a so--called annointed one.. who made my life and the lives of my 5 children.

a living hell.....i only have one daughter in the borg...but even tho i am dis associated she still talks to me....i moved to texas to be near my daughter and my grand kids...but now i am being ostrasized for helping my schizophrenic son (24),,who couldnt make it on his own in north dakota...... and my son almost didnt make it to texas as he was thrown off the bus for smoking and abandoned... i went on a mission to find him.....by backtracking and giving out flyers of his picture with my phone ..number on it.

as it happened someone recognized him and i got him back....safe but not sound..... so now my daughters and their boyfriends have disowned me for taking him in....why i am not really sure....but with everyday mydepression gets worse....i have been hospitalized for attempted suicide many times...and theythink i am making up this shit..... just recently i was hospitalized ,,,for another suicide attempt... i think iwill make the next one stick...my brother killed himself at 38,,, no one knew the horrible secrets in his life and the family didnt want to know......now hes gone...leavingbehind 3 daughters and 2 grand daughters.. do they even know the pain and torments i have endured for soo long being in a cult...my 21 yr old daugher willlnever forgive me for what i did toher... sheis out now... but her sister is still in and i know its tearing her apart....my 24 yr old son is schizophrenic and may never be normal....but i am taking care of him as the rest ofthe family have abandoned him to my care....ha i cant even take care of me...for christs sake... for those of you i met at dallas in may,,,you know me right could i really be capable of being so selfish...so uncaring......i need your prayers and strength to get me thru this now.... there were so many things i couldnt do,, when my kids were being abused... i had to be submissive to that fucking jerk...he hurt me ,,, the borg hurt me....everyone gets hurt..... but this may be the straw that broke the camels back....words can and do hurt ,,, i can only say sorry to them so much.....but their dad willnever do that..he willnever make there hurt go away..... i just need ed to be heard as my daughters do not want me to talk to them....and it is breaking my heart in two so imust get my book done..before i am gone for good.....shalom my dear friends

Jez

We are all struggling here. I too am struggling with trying to break free and just not care what others think of me or whether or not they let me go due to their cultish thinking.

I think many emotionally sick ppl make up one big emotionally sick organization. Ppl that join it or stay are looking for a crutch or need others to make up their mind for them bec they are not able to or they have been born into this and have had their minds twisted to the point of not knowing how to survive normally, think for themselves AND let others think for themselves.

I have spent my whole life trying to help others see things MY way. For many of us here, that form of brain-training does not end. I am having a hell of a time accepting the fact that I can't make others think my way nor should I be trying to anymore. That is a dub speaking.

Your family may never see things YOUR way, OUR way. But that is ok. That is their decision. They are ill in some way, not you. You and them have been conditioned to think that it is US that is ill because WE left. I am afraid that you and I and I am sure many others, have fallen into the trap of accepting and then internalizing that lie. They think we are ill, wrong, ungodly therefore we self fulfill that.

I for one am determined to stop that. I want to identify the ways that I think, what has been implanted there and get rid of it. I don't want to just give up on this journey of discovering who I am. I am tired of being silenced. Don't let them silence you by giving them your very LIFE!!!! Continue and have faith in a higher being and in humanity.

Sometimes all we can do is just breathe in and out because it all hurts so bad, but know that little by little, the fog lifts. And when it does lift, you will see for the first time in your life so much clarity and hope, each little step forward will give you even more strength for the next step forward, until you can face anything.

I AM holding you in my inner thoughts and sending positive thoughts to you. Jez

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No sound on my pc, suggestions??

by Jez in

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any ideas of how i can troubleshoot before packing my hd to the shop to be repaired?.

thanks in advance

Jez

Any ideas of how I can troubleshoot before packing my hd to the shop to be repaired?

Thanks in advance

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No JW kids at school today

by Jez in

remembrance day today.

i work at the local highschool.

i was surprised to see only 1 jw kid in attendance at school.

Jez

Remembrance day today. I work at the local highschool. I was surprised to see only 1 JW kid in attendance at school. How weird. They were there for Halloween, but not today. I have noticed some missing in past years, but alot more this year. Classes are as normal except for a 1 hour assembly. My youngest daughter told me that many were missing from her school as well.

I think the teenagers are embarrassed to not go to the school assembly so they take a day off school. I hope it is that and not that the society has somehow 'encouraged' (of course not 'told') them to stay home that day to avoid it all.

This organization just keeps getting weirder, or maybe I just keep seeing things clearer and clearer.

Jez

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"You'll still be handled as a disfellowshipped person."

by Fleur in

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that was the response that i got from a relative when i asked if they would shun me if i came to my grandmother's memorial service.. the same relative thinks that i should go, despite that because it's a public event but that if i did i should realize that i'd still be handled as a df'd person.

meaning, they would all shun me.. i have for days been trying to help this relative arrange my grandmother's burial with another relative who has refused to sign necessary papers.

i even offered to pay for said burial out of my own pocket if money were an issue.

Jez

Would it be advisable for a true Christian to attend a funeral or a wedding in a church?

Our taking part in any form of false religion is displeasing to Jehovah and must be avoided. (2 Corinthians 6:14-17; Revelation 18:4) A church funeral is a religious service that likely involves a sermon advocating such unscriptural ideas as the immortality of the soul and a heavenly reward for all good people. It may also include such practices as making the sign of the cross and joining in prayer with the priest or minister. Prayers and other religious exercises contrary to Bible teaching may also be a part of a religious wedding ceremony held in a church or elsewhere. Being in a group where everyone else is engaging in a false religious act, a Christian may find it difficult to resist the pressure to join in. How unwise to expose oneself to such pressure!

What if a Christian feels obligated to attend a funeral or a wedding held in a church? An unbelieving husband, for example, may urge his Christian wife to be with him on such an occasion. Could she join him as a quiet observer? Out of regard for her husband?s wishes, the wife may decide to go with him, being determined not to share in any religious ceremonies. On the other hand, she may decide not to go, reasoning that the emotional pressure of the circumstances could prove to be too much for her, perhaps causing her to compromise godly principles. The decision would be hers to make. She definitely would want to be settled in her heart, having a clean conscience.?1 Timothy 1:19.

WHAT kind of crap is that? First they say, it MUST be avoided and then they turn around and say that a wife must obey her husband, even before God. So they are saying that the laws of the bible do not apply to women. Her first responsibility is to make sure she does not piss her husband off. AHHHHHHHH...I hate this kind of crap they write.

Anyways, I agree with many of the posters here. Go. For you and for her. If you believe at all in an afterlife, or that your Grandmother is somewhere watching, she will see and will now know the real truth. I would think, if I was her, that I would want to look down and see the one person in my life that showed devotion and love to me even when it was blocked at every turn. I think she would not want to you to back down now. I think it was a great idea to take a support group with you. If I was closer, I would hold your hand and go with you.

Lots of hugs sent your way, Jez

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What little things used to excite you as a JW?

by doodle-v in

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i would get excited when i was younger and would study the watchtower and see that this weeks study only had 19 paragraphs.

(made the study seem shorter,lol).

when a meeting would get canceled because of snow (which was rare) and i would get to stay home and watch a cheers or the cosby show.

Jez

I got excited about showing off my girls at the meetings. New dresses, hair perfect, new little shoes. So adorable. Loved oooohing and ahhhing over others kids as well. "Where DID you get that? Golllly it is cute!"

Jez

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What was your very first job ?

by xjw_b12 in

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do you remember it ?.

did you you learn anything from it?.

Jez

Paper route age 8 to 16. Wage = approx $50-60 a month.

7-11 age 17. Wage=$4.75 an hour

Woolworths age 17. Wage=$5.25 an hour

School district as Interpreter for the deaf, age 19. Wage = $11.25 an hour. (Huge money in 1988!)

I have continued in that field and my education in that field.

Jez

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ATTENTION TO ALL WITH ACCESS TO CURRENT MAGS

by Happy Guy :) in

i am in need of a favour.

i am trying to locate a copy of an article from awake october 8, 2004. page 13. entitled, "jehovah, you found me!

anyone with access to this article and the ability to scan and post it; please do.. .

Jez

Oh yes it does indicate all the way through that she was hiding so much from her mother AND that she was encouraged to do so by JWs.

Note on page 14, she goes to a neighbor JW. When she says that she was one of JW and wanted to get baptised, HE DOESN'T ASK HER MOTHER, HE DOESN'T QUESTION anything about her situation, what does he do....quickly arranges for a Christain sister to study with her. Now it goes on to say that the mother opposed and told her to wait till she was 18 to continue before she could become a Witness. NOTE that the piece of the story ends there! WHO knows that the WBTS left out. I bet she continued to study.

Another thing, note there is not much said about the mother's unloving ways other than the fact that she did not want her becoming a Witness. This suggests, in a very deceptive way, that opposition to study or being a JW is tantamount to 'unloving' and reason for seeking a way out of the home.

To me, throughout the whole article, the mother, stepfather, 'worldly family' that loved her, opposed her studying and therefore she had to give them all up. She HAD TO CHOOSE between Jehovah and her family. GUESS what she is applauded for choosing???????????????????????????????????????

I hate this article.

Jez