A compromise: I will live for 1000 years, then when Satan is let out of the abyss, I will tiptoe off the narrow path and join him on the wide and spacious one, then God will kill me. BUT I will have had 1000 years..so all is good.
Jez
ok, be realistic, would you want to live forever?
what is your view of living forever?
golf
A compromise: I will live for 1000 years, then when Satan is let out of the abyss, I will tiptoe off the narrow path and join him on the wide and spacious one, then God will kill me. BUT I will have had 1000 years..so all is good.
Jez
ok, be realistic, would you want to live forever?
what is your view of living forever?
golf
I remember one time in college this teacher of the subject "Death and Dying" explained really well how in order for life to exist there needs to be death. He put it all so clear and reasonable so it made perfect sense. Too bad I've forgotten about it and threw the book away a long time ago.DY
LMAO.....There I was, ready for this enlightening commentary, and all I get is this tiny synopsis, and then, "Too bad I've forgotten about it and threw the book away."
Am I the only one that found that post hilarious. I spit apple all over the computer screen.
Living forever is a fantasy for people that think they are something more than they are not. I think of all of the "coincidences" that had to occur for a little egg/sperm partnership to make ME! Is it chance? I don't know. Does genetic material contain my spirit? Did each of my parents give me 1/2 of my spirit? I don't know, but I doubt it. I don't FEEL connected to my parents, other than loving them for being my parents and for who they are, but I love alot of people. I don't love them because we are physically connected. My spirit does not cry out to them, in fact, I look at them, and see them as so incredibly separate from me that I just KNOW my spirit is something that came TO me, not was threaded in with the genetic material.
Know what I mean Vern? Jez
They don't need my forgiveness. If there is a higher being, well, that is who they should be worried about.
Jez
ok, be realistic, would you want to live forever?
what is your view of living forever?
golf
I have often thought that motivation would be erased if living forever became the norm. I mean, why do anything at all??? Now, we are motivated often due to time. "I'll do it tomorrow" could always be an excuse, because there is always a tomorrow, for sure.
It feel unnatural for me to live forever. I believe I have a spirit, but what happens to my spirit when I go, is not for me to know.
Jez
my wife is joining.
she feels that the choice is between nothing and god, and that the only way to have a relationship with god is through these people.
i have accepted that.
I have found that just offering an alternative, showing them an alternative, is often enough to refute the 'wonderfulness' of JWs. It becomes very clear. When they are old enough, they make the right choice. Perhaps as they get older, you can get them thinking on their own about the bible and how you view it. I don't think you should be afraid to teach your children YOUR beliefs. Bring in other beliefs from around the world, make it a fun event, talk about greek mythology, native culture, just try to make your house a place that is respectful of whatever journey others are on spiritually. Knowledge is power.
Jez
this site has been a place that i have visited many times.. i would like to make some friends and meet local people.. to blondie ... words cannot explain how much i appreciate.
the reviews.
i can see so clearly how the studies keep members.
A big welcome from me!!
Jez
gina and i were talking about this last night.
do any of you that are currently serving as elders ever serve on jc's?
is it something you can opt out of and still be an elder?.
What a unique perspective you all have to offer! Thank you for being here.
there has been a few new to board so what's one more?
i've been reading the board for a few weeks and i'm impressed at the amount of research that goes into many of postings.
there are two topics that really get me going, one is "607 bce".
WELCOME!
i've taken a leaf from holly's book to thank your for having me on the forum - thirteen interesting days but came to realise one cannot achieve much speaking from behind a screen.
people do not know who you really are, nor do you they.
i read many of holly's posts but few others.
I think of myself and the family members I have that are still in there and I pray that they come to this site to visit. I KNOW that they will see things with only one perspective-we are wrong/they are right. I remember how difficult it was and still is sometimes for me to let others opinions just be. You don't always have to change them, refute them, challenge them. If he left, I am sad, I am NOT GLAD he left, I wish he would stay and voice his concerns, his arguments, read and perhaps slowly learn.
The light gets brighter, slower for some than others. We HAVE TO respect this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't understand why people assume to know that all he wanted was to stir up trouble, therefore the BUAH BYEs all over the place. What if he has been reading, felt the stirrings inside of him that he has been duped and ran scared? I might have done the same thing before. Sometimes it is a run/comeback/stay a while/comeback/run again bec I am so evil and bad for visiting here/come back/stay a little longer this time/run because the truth hurts more than one can bear/come back/stay longer.....well you get my drift.
I hope your journey leads you back to us someday. You can run away as many times as you want to, just please come back when your instincts tell you that something is not right or you have a question.
Christian unconditional love Jez
i hate them.
and i find them boring......what's your take?
I love The Apprentice because it shows so much of human relationships and how people try to gain power or the upperhand in relationships. I love it for that reason.
I use to like Survivor, but it is boring now.
I LOVE The Amazing Race because it shows so much of the world.
I also like Extreme Home because I love to see families get when they need it so much.
So those are the only 3 things I watch on TV.
Jez