JWs have structure, hope, a detailed plan, answers to the whys and hows, clear definitions of morally gray areas and above all a social group of relatively like minded people generally striving to be better people. Although we do focus upon the destructive and illogical endpoints I think we there are some good benefits to the group. While I'll never get back my years wasted in mormonism I still loved a great deal of the experiences and I definitely miss the sense of purpose, unity and surety. For some people in really destrcutive cycles (depression, addiction or lonliness for example) joining a religious organisation can be a life saver and be a net positive gain. imo.
Posts by Qcmbr
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33What Do Jehovah's Witnesses Have Going For Them?
by minimus inthere must be a reason jws stay or people join..
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Just wanted to say...
by tec in... how truly great this place is.. i have not been on many forums, but i think this one is unique and strong in a very important way.
it is of course a support group for those exiting the wts, or trying to deal with remaining within it, first and foremost.
but the awesome thing about this place is how it welcomes everyone.
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Sorry FHN - references to blood sacrifing mythologies are not good for anyone. I am very disturbed by your assumption that one man caused death and one man will be solving it ironically through death. You can't use the trojan horse of friendly civility to insert a barbaric idea that some of us have rejected as distasteful and obscene.
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Beards
by ThomasK9 ini've been involved with the witnessess since 1976. my ex-wife was a baptised sister who fell in with the wrong crowd and left the fruth when she should have been disfellowshipped.
thats another story.
after returning home in 1980 from working in the u.s. navy, i contacked her parents and in 1982 started studying for ernest.
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Any religion you can't leave is a cult. Any religion that removes your individuality is a cult. If you feel the need to be a part of a cult, join the Mormons, at least they are a bit more mainstream and I bet you can keep the facial hair.
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Speaking of short skirts on the one hand and long hair and beards on the other, we should note that the reasons for these two requirements are different. Skirt lengths for women are a function of modesty. The ban on long hair and beards , on the other hand, is a question of symbolism and propriety. Let us examine these separately. http://www.lds.org/new-era/1971/12/standards-of-dress-and-grooming?lang=eng&query=beards
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Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion
by Hermano infound this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.
this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.
glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.
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Kurt - oh yes. Old people doing the touching. Bleugggh.
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David Cameron Confronts Cristina Fernandez (UK v Argentina)
by cofty incameron briefly confronted the argentine president cristina fernandez de kirchner when they met at the g20 meeting in mexico today.. the prime minister told ms fernandez she should "respect the views" of islanders who are taking part in a referendum on the issue of control.
- read more at bbc.... i never thought i would offer praise of a tory leader but hey credit where its due..
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Heck you've persuaded me LMSA - stuff the Falklanders and their bigotry. Argentina its all yours. If you fancy Wales let me know about an unrelated story and you can have that as well.
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Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion
by Hermano infound this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.
this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.
glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.
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If enough JWs pushed for a doctrinal change it would occur. I think we underestimate the power of the group.
- two hours ago I was searching for pretty flower pictures to post before I shook myself and had a stern chat about macho boundaries that I've agreed with my internal self haha. Grrr.
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Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion
by Hermano infound this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.
this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.
glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.
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Actually I do remember something where LDS members did change church policy.
Within the old temple ceremony one of the acted out penalties for betraying the secret nature of the rite was to draw your hand across your throat as a symbol of slitting your throat. A lot of members complained and then it was dropped. The temple ceremony has changed in many ways (also for example there was a lot of nekkid touching in the temple that has now been droped ;) )
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Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion
by Hermano infound this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.
this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.
glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.
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Qcmbr
There is a concept that is growing within Mormonism of 'cafeteria mormons' or 'new order mormons' - those who for whatever reason accept some of the churches teachings but not all. They seek to reform mormonism from within in various ways. I suspect the church views them as wolves in sheeps clothing.
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Believers' Thread!!!
by snowbird inpeace, and love to you.
we are all in this together,to some, we're birds of a featherhowever, no matter what they say,we'll continue to watch, fight, and pray.
sylvia.
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I am now using those pink flowers - top right - as my screen saver, I liked them so much.
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I think the Society might drop its appeal over the Conti case
by cedars ini've been giving some thought to the recent development in which the judge has ruled that the society is barred from completing any property transactions until the appeal is over, which could take up to two years or even more.. i've submitted an article to randy at freeminds in which i basically argue that it is no longer in the society's interests to appeal this case.
if i correctly understand the restrictions placed on the society by the judge, then the governing body has far more to lose by appealing than they could conceivably gain.. think about it.... by appealing, they buy themselves time in which to formulate a long-term strategy for dealing with the fallout of this case, but will be barred from liquidating $1 billion in property assets at a time of global economic uncertainty when their donations are dwindling.
there is also no guarantee that their appeal will be upheld.by dropping their appeal, they take a hit and pay $23.8 million but retain the freedom to see through their real estate projects; retain their financial flexibility to respond to dwindling donations, and get to pretend to their followers (as with the un scandal) that it never happened.of course, i am only saying that dropping the appeal would be the only intelligent option for the society, assuming they are aware of how legally precarious their child abuse policies are.
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Expect the cost of conventions to increase...