Since the bible was put together after the christian 'church' was formed, since the OT was largely superceded by the teachings of Jesus and finally since the New Testament was largely a series of letters to individual churches - why do we put so much credence on a set of translated scriptures written by a culture seperated from our own by 2000 years? And as a back up to this question - if the canon of scriptures are clearly not the sole basis of the early christian church - what should the church be built on?
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10A question for bible believers...
by Qcmbr insince the bible was put together after the christian 'church' was formed, since the ot was largely superceded by the teachings of jesus and finally since the new testament was largely a series of letters to individual churches - why do we put so much credence on a set of translated scriptures written by a culture seperated from our own by 2000 years?
and as a back up to this question - if the canon of scriptures are clearly not the sole basis of the early christian church - what should the church be built on?
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God is insane
by onacruse in.
i apologize...i'm just so [edit][edit][edit][edit][edit] angry at "god" right now that i can't put it into words.. craig
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Qcmbr
Gotta defend God here.... This world is clearly not heaven on earth - death may just be the most merciful escape. Son of God did not avoid any of the horrors of this world but went through all (Garden of Gethsemane) Some bad things happen in direct violation of commandments (murder , rape, cancer caused by abusing our bodies with drugs etc..) Bad things happen because we consistently don't learn to love each other - many famines, world illnesses etc.. that could be solved. If we are some sort of eternal being then this time on earth is so short and is the only point in our existence when we can suffer pain, loss etc.. in other words this is our point of comparison for eternity - this may just be the most important thing for us. God doesn't always step in because 1/ we reject Him at every step 2/ We have to learn from our own mistakes 3/ That tragedy is meant to happen - its just time for that peron / group to come home. Maybe we'd be more aware of how much help we got if we could see all the work that goes on in teh background for and on our behalf - I have experiences I just cannot / won't share in this forum but I know that thing shappen on the other side that most of us are blissfully unaware of.
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What is a site equivalent to this for mormons?
by ithinkisee in.
i am interested to see parallel arguments and stuff like that of ex-mormons or whatever.. what is the main discussion forum for mormon "apostates"?.
a google search only really gives me mixed results.. .
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Comparisons: Millenial beliefs - return of Jesus very soon. End of present system of things soon. Only one true church - all others wrong. Jesus has returned (though LDS still await the big return where everyone will see Him) Door to door proselyting. Jesus and God the Father different people (though LDS believe Jehovah is Jesus) Paradise on earth after Jesus return. 1000 year millenium. 6000 years of earth's temporal existence (for LDS this is left quite loose - not necessarily the point of creation - just this order of things.) New scripture with continuing revelation(does the Awake and Watchtower count...?) Governing coucil of twelve (I think JW's have this??) Financial commitment (10% tithing - not certain on the JW side)
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What is a site equivalent to this for mormons?
by ithinkisee in.
i am interested to see parallel arguments and stuff like that of ex-mormons or whatever.. what is the main discussion forum for mormon "apostates"?.
a google search only really gives me mixed results.. .
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Qcmbr
..if its the JW I can give you some comparisions and beliefs from the LDS side of the fence.
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What is a site equivalent to this for mormons?
by ithinkisee in.
i am interested to see parallel arguments and stuff like that of ex-mormons or whatever.. what is the main discussion forum for mormon "apostates"?.
a google search only really gives me mixed results.. .
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Qcmbr
So which religion are you leaving:)?
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What is a site equivalent to this for mormons?
by ithinkisee in.
i am interested to see parallel arguments and stuff like that of ex-mormons or whatever.. what is the main discussion forum for mormon "apostates"?.
a google search only really gives me mixed results.. .
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Qcmbr
Hey Robdar where did your friend serve?
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What is a site equivalent to this for mormons?
by ithinkisee in.
i am interested to see parallel arguments and stuff like that of ex-mormons or whatever.. what is the main discussion forum for mormon "apostates"?.
a google search only really gives me mixed results.. .
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Qcmbr
Are you an ex-mormon?
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Has anyone ever had an experience with ghosts or spirits?
by cindykp inmost of us were taught that this was the works of satin.
im not sure i believe that.
i had never had any experiences before i moved in there.
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Qcmbr
I've seen a spirit and had it attack me when I was a missionary. Also took part in a well freaky episode of casting out spirits. Not nice.
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Mormon Conference Center - part time aircraft hanger
by Qcmbr inas part of the architectural plans of the relatively new lds conference centre they show an aeroplane for scale reference.
unless of cource they actually park that old boeing there in between conferences.... other life altering facts:.
340 toilets @ 1.6 gallons per minute flush = 544 gpm!.
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Qcmbr
As part of the architectural plans of the relatively new LDS conference centre they show an aeroplane for scale reference. Unless of cource they actually park that old boeing there in between conferences...
Other life altering facts:
340 toilets @ 1.6 gallons per minute flush = 544 gpm!
84 urinals @ 1.6 gpm per flush = 134.4 gpm.
Every minute 1,035,000 cubic feet air moved over 14 miles of hvac duct work.
Designed to seismic 4 specs (whats that then?)
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prayers not answered?
by herewegoagain5 inthis is only my second time posting - i hope that i've done it correctly.
my mom has numerous health problems stemming from diabetes.
anyways, she informed me of a conversation she & my father (r.p.& m.s.
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Qcmbr
Sure - Prayer is our time to find out the will of our maker it isn't the time for a wishlist. I've often got on my knees , had a spot of reverence (something almost wholely lacking in our modern world) , cleared my mind of all the noise and then had a good heart to heart with God. I have had feelings , insights, ideas etc.. come to me that have changed who am I - literally. I have got up off my knees thinking, feeling and understanding differently. I have also asked for things and received no answer - nothing , blankness and when I look back that was when I was praying into the bed cover rather than talking to God. God doesn't get angry, mad, bored etc.. with prayers. Just doesn't happen. Prayers just don't get answered when all we are really asking for is 'our will not thine be done.'