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  Astounding proof of the existence of God!

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  perry marshall has done what no one else could do -- he has proven that god exists!

  he points out that dna is a language -- a message -- and messages always originate with a mind!

  of course, it's so simple.

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  fair enuf
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  ANYBODY STILL HAVE A WITNESS MENTALITY?

  by stillAwitness in

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  o.k so i am living the "double life" i suppose.

  but its funny how sometimes i still catch myself doing or saying things that only a "really spiritual" preason would.

  like the other day when i saw a cute tank top on sale but it said "libra" on it.

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  I guess I do.
  
  Even if I didn't have a religious mentality I'd still have a mentality learnt from whatever group in society I identified with. One that does my nut in is the political correctness fad that is walking all over the way we think and talk and is as restrictive to freedom as any religious ruleset. Everytime I'm in public I have to check what I'm saying more due to pc rules than anything religion might have made me feel bad about. I have 'learnt' to feel guilty if someone makes a joke about anyone other then a white male middle class capitalist and I find it funny - that is just cr*p.
  grrrr.
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  Astounding proof of the existence of God!

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  perry marshall has done what no one else could do -- he has proven that god exists!

  he points out that dna is a language -- a message -- and messages always originate with a mind!

  of course, it's so simple.

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  Hi Pole - I was just making a point that in terms of brevity and accuracy dna passes information very very well. Human language however, passes much more information at the cost of accuracy. When I say 'I think therefore I am' there are many levels that can be understood on and much more information can be taken from this statement than is actually given (and most is probably unintended by the speaker!) Mathematical language is a 'tighter' language for the same reason - less context to get in the way, more rigid concepts and fewer alternative translations.
  
  DNA passes on information that is not random but is constructed to be read exactly.
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  "Brave New World" -- have you read it?

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  i've heard alot about this book, but i've never read it.

  today we happened upon a yard sale and there it was!

  so i grabbed it.. i can't put the thing down.

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  ..a very good description of why the garden of Eden scenario just wouldn't have been in our best long term interests
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  "Brave New World" -- have you read it?

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. jw
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  i've heard alot about this book, but i've never read it.

  today we happened upon a yard sale and there it was!

  so i grabbed it.. i can't put the thing down.

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  I read it and found the ending fairly unsettling. Excellent.
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  I Need Some Help!

  by Legolas in

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  does anyone know how to make a web page, one that i can use to sell my house on?

  we are trying to sell it by ourselves!

  any help would be appreciated.

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  Probably not a good idea. I make web pages but like I tell all my clients - if you can't tell me how your clients are going to know about your page than its unlikely they will ever find it (ie marketing is far more important than the web page itself). Another solution is to post a newspaper advert in the local newspaper , put up your own for sale board and hand out flyers outside of estate agents (realtors?) to anyone who goes in and finally put your home up on ebay. Your more likely to reach your target audience that way than by website - the internet is very poor at selling single items on a single site. Only large marketplaces (like ebay) have real success at it.
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  Astounding proof of the existence of God!

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  perry marshall has done what no one else could do -- he has proven that god exists!

  he points out that dna is a language -- a message -- and messages always originate with a mind!

  of course, it's so simple.

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  There is something deeper going on here when we talk about language. There is the symbolic code which is arbitrary and generally has no intrinsic value (an exception would be sound words such as 'moo' or 'buzz') and there is the concept which is defined by the context in which it is experienced. The concept is generally more stable than the sound used to describe it (snow is still cold water even if its called niege (forgive me if I got my French wrong hehe 15 years old and extremely rusty) and the concept is culturally enforced.
  
  Writing gives added permanance to the tie up between spelling and concept while TV and radio gives stronger resilience to sound and concept tie up. Human language is merely a medium of conveying information and is fairly imprecise but we are smart enough to make up for its inadequacy and normally get the meaning right (when we don't we get arguements / frustration etc..)
  
  DNA passes on information but it is not encumbered by arbitrariness - it is nature's 'assembler'(very basic yes/no style information) whereas human language is nature's 'java' (many ways to say the same thing.) In that aspect human language is much richer and fun (just as programming is more enjoyable in its java form than in assembler - except to real egg heads:) The critical thing about DNA is that our description of it (using letters) is the arbitrary bit while the concept / infomation it is describing is absolutely exact - any unrecoverable mistakes have big repercussions. In many ways DNA is a far better (and more compact) language than human language in terms of passing on information. Now we've learnt to read the letters we are beginning to decode the words and one day we'll have the full syntax and meaning - that's when we'll really start playing god.
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  THE MOTIVES OF GOOD JWS WHO POST ON THIS SITE

  by steve2 in

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  while i think it's perfectly okay, i do wonder what motivates jws to post here and especially to also express views critical of ex-jws.

  is it the freudian notion of "projection": the jw who denounces something in others that he or she is also guilty of?

  hence, if a jw clearly denounces an apostate's faults, it must mean the jw is really against apostasy when it might be something he or she struggles with.

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  The more the merrier I say - JWs should post here often - makes for a far more lively site I think. It'd be ever so boring if it was all one way traffic.
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  Hi New Here!

  by weinermcgee in

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  hi folks whats up?.

  i grew up as a strict jw until my early 20's when an event happened that made me start thinking for myself, thank goodness.

  what i mean by strict was i think most of you will undertsand that i really believed in what i was doing, baptised at the age of 13, seriously considered bethal, pioneered and was offered to be a ministerial servent.

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  Hi, you'll be at home here. Its a like a big cosy bar with occassional brawls / group singing / putting the world to rights and bitchin'. Its good fun and everyone is cool. No one is unwelcome as long as they aren't too dogmatic or rude.
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  Astounding proof of the existence of God!

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  perry marshall has done what no one else could do -- he has proven that god exists!

  he points out that dna is a language -- a message -- and messages always originate with a mind!

  of course, it's so simple.

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  Actually it is a language by one definition - for something to be a language requires a repeatable ruleset, a rule user and a rule interpreter - normally that means a speaker and a listener. I work with code every day and its garbage to the non-programmer but to the compiler on the pc it means something (what I'm saying is it hasn't lost its language status because there isn't a human listener) and likewise dna is an encoded message that can be read by the listening organic material. There is nothing else in our human experience that is like it except human constructs spoken language, written language, maths, most thought (try thinking without words) and recently computer language. No where else is information purposefully encoded in such a way as to be meaningful to the listener - this is precisely why it is nothing like the simple patterns found in such natural features as crystalisation. Life is inherantly different.
  
  I see dna as absolute proof of design despite sceptic viewpoints. The reference made to maths doesn't add up because maths is a simple generalisation , an approximation of reality which isn't true (when I get the 'stupid creationist' flames I may even attempt to expand on this) wheras dna is real and concrete - there is no approximation of reality at all.