I heard that Randy of freeminds no longer believes in God and is a homosexual. Can anyone verify this?
What does that matter????
bboyneko
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Help? Response about freeminds
by mpatrick incan anyone help me respond to this post.
i have to say there are far more knowledgeable people here than i. it can be found at:.
* http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/message_list.asp?boardid=2437&discussionid=72677.
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bboyneko
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why u should come back to Jahs fold
by nytelecom1 in[quote].
i found out i had been "terminated" from my last job and found out on my first day back from vacation......argh, oh those cc bills!
well, i went out and immediately signed up with about 7 temporary agencies.
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bboyneko
I just got a $2,000 raise after only 5 months here at my new job. Thatz pretty cool considering its my first real job since college.
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letter to the society
by sleepy inhere is a rough version of a letter i intend to send to the society regarding an article in the july 1 2001 watchtower about doubt.. any suggestions on how i can improve the letter?.
also what are the odds on getting in big trouble in sending this?.
dear friend ,.
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bboyneko
You might as well pour water on the ducks nearest to you.
I tried this, they didn't seem to care too much, but they were dissapointed because they assumed I was giving them food.
-Dan
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Infinitism
by dunsscot inskeptics of the world, unite!.
as i slowly and deliberately nursed a nonalcoholic cup of coca-cola tonight, something motivated me to pull out my notes on infinitism and share them with you good folks here.
infinitism is a philosophical school of thought that advocates the epistemological "suspension of judgment.
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bboyneko
Utopian Reformist sed:
As a graduate student, I often wondered how the course of wisdom would have developed if human history had been different on this planet. Supposing human society had evolved or developed into a utopian society instead, would our modern thinking enhance our existence or delve into explanations?
I concur. How would we have developed if A ERRANT SPACESHIP LOADED with super-devloped monkeys and apes crash-landed on earth from our future (they were being used as experimental alternatives to manned exploratory space missions) into our past and then the super-monkeys escaped and evolved over the course of millions of years into the dominant intelligent species on earth and enslaved humanity, but then marky-mark lands on earth and saves us all only to have it all erased by a single idiotic descision that left no coonsideration to space-time and continuims??
I think we likley would have not developed such things as infinitsm. But I betcha we would have invented cosmetics judging by some of the girls on our hypothetical planet.
-Dan
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Did God create Adam to Live forever??
by bboyneko inas a jw i was taught god created adam to live forever, but the genesis account seems to say otherwise:.
well first theres this weird problem, the bible says god created man and woman on the same day, the sixth day.
genesis 1:.
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bboyneko
adam and eve not being created to live forever on earth kinda throws a fredhall into the societies argument that god intended man to live on earth forever dosent it.
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bboyneko
hahah young people have been bad since the beginning of time. Adolescense brings with it rebellion.
I think it's a common misconception that the world today is worse than it has ever been. I highly disagree. At least we aren't skewered on a sharpened steak thru our anus and left to die for days (yes, you often do live thru having the steak come in one end and come out your mouth) because we disagree with the current leader of our country.
Or you don't have to fear having all your limbs tied to 4 strong horses and being dismembered as the horses are whipped to pull in different directions because you disagree with the current pope.
Also you don't have to have your limbs crushed under a iron wheel so that they become basically a formless gelatin like mass of skin and flesh, and then have the lims tied like rope on the wheel and you are then left to die of the elements as birds and insects peck at your now useless apendages because you didn't shave your beard as decreed by your russian czar.
Today is much less barbaric than the past. The media allows us to see all the worlds suffering at once every day making it appear that we live in times worse than anything in human history.
-Dan
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Did God create Adam to Live forever??
by bboyneko inas a jw i was taught god created adam to live forever, but the genesis account seems to say otherwise:.
well first theres this weird problem, the bible says god created man and woman on the same day, the sixth day.
genesis 1:.
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bboyneko
Damnit fredhall thats not fair. I cant refute that argument without reposting my post.
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Did God create Adam to Live forever??
by bboyneko inas a jw i was taught god created adam to live forever, but the genesis account seems to say otherwise:.
well first theres this weird problem, the bible says god created man and woman on the same day, the sixth day.
genesis 1:.
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bboyneko
As a JW I was taught God created Adam to live forever, but The Genesis account seems to say otherwise:
Well first theres this weird problem, the bible says God created Man and woman on the same day, the sixth day.
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So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
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God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."But the Bible in Genesis Chapter 2 says God created only man and then later after the beasts of the field had been brought to Adam did he create a woman.
Oh well, anyway After Adam and eve eat the fruit, god sez this:
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And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."So God kicked adam and eve out of the garden so that they would not live forever, that means that they were not going to live forever in the first place! It never said in Genesis that God created man immortal to reside on earth forever. When and Adam and Eve ate from the tree, they didn't die like God had claimed. And if they were not going to live forever, but die of old age, then there really was no harm in eating the apple other than that god said not to. Maybe it was a test like when god tricked (lied) to Abraham to sacrifice his son to test his faith.
Also the idea of sin being inherited from Adam dosent seem to make sense in light of these scriptures:
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Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin.2 Kings 14
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Yet he did not put the sons of the assassins to death, in accordance with what is written in the Book of the Law of Moses where the LORD commanded: "Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sins."2 Chronicles 25
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Yet he did not put their sons to death, but acted in accordance with what is written in the Law, in the Book of Moses, where the LORD commanded: "Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sins."So each person died for their own sins, not those of their parents....and god commanded not to do so..yet strangely he does it quite alot himself:
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You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate meDeuteronomy 5
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You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,???????? God is very senile isn't he?? He also punished children for the sins of their fathers during the flood and in 1 samuel chapter 15 where he commands that children and sucklings/infants be slaughtered.
Don't forget the egyptian firstborn slaughter. Was it fair for the firstborn to die because their fathers didnt heed a warning?
Sorry for all the tangents but the bible makes no sense to me anymore.
-Dan
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THE MASTER OF DECEPTION
by You Know inthis is a piece i posted on h20 some time ago.
it was so well-recieved at the time that i thought i would repost it here for your enjoyment.. ______________________________________________________________________.
the uninitiated reader of course naturally assumes that satan would be the master of deception, but in actuality, while he is the malevolent arch-deceiver, jehovah is actually the master.
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bboyneko
Baalam, you recall, was a lunatic prophet who tried to curse God's people but God deceived him into uttering a blessing
Actually, I beleive it was God who was a lunatic in that story:
The story of Balaam and the angel is a good example of some of the problems experienced by God. Being extremely old, senility occasionally leads to some misunderstandings.
"And the children of Israel set forward, and pitched in the plains of Moab on this side Jordan by Jericho." "And Balak the son of Zippor saw all that Israel had done to the Amorites." "And Moab was sore afraid of the people, because they were many: and Moab was distressed because of the children of Israel." "And Moab said unto the elders of Midian, Now shall this company lick up all that are round about us, as the ox licketh up the grass of the field. And Balak the son of Zippor was king of the Moabites at that time." "He sent messengers therefore unto Balaam the son of Beor to Pethor, which is by the river of the land of the children of his people, to call him, saying, Behold, there is a people come out from Egypt: behold, they cover the face of the earth, and they abide over against me:" "Come now therefore, I pray thee, curse me this people; for they are too mighty for me: peradventure I shall prevail, that we may smite them, and that I may drive them out of the land: for I wot that he whom thou blessest is blessed, and he whom thou cursest is cursed." [Numb 22:1-6]
"And the elders of Moab and the elders of Midian departed with the rewards of divination in their hand; and they came unto Balaam, and spake unto him the words of Balak." "And he said unto them, Lodge here this night, and I will bring you word again, as the Lord shall speak unto me: and the princes of Moab abode with Balaam." "And God came unto Balaam, and said, What men are these with thee?" "And Balaam said unto God, Balak the son of Zippor, king of Moab, hath sent unto me, saying," "Behold, there is a people come out of Egypt, which covereth the face of the earth: come now, curse me them; peradventure I shall be able to overcome them, and drive them out." [Numb 22: 7-11]
God, of course, forbids the cursing of his chosen race, and tells Balaam not to go.
"And God said unto Balaam, Thou shalt not go with them; thou shalt not curse the people: for they are blessed." "And Balaam rose up in the morning, and said unto the princes of Balak, Get you into your land: for the Lord refuseth to give me leave to go with you." "And the princes of Moab rose up, and they went unto Balak, and said, Balaam refuseth to come with us." [Numb 22: 8-14]
Balak tries again.
"And Balak sent yet again princes, more, and more honourable than they." "And they came to Balaam, and said to him, Thus saith Balak the son of Zippor, Let nothing, I pray thee, hinder thee from coming unto me:" "For I will promote thee unto very great honour, and I will do whatsoever thou sayest unto me: come therefore, I pray thee, curse me this people." "And Balaam answered and said unto the servants of Balak, If Balak would give me his house full of silver and gold, I cannot go beyond the word of the Lord my God, to do less or more." [Numb 22: 15-18]
The ever-loyal Balaam asks God about the new visitors, and this time gets permission to go.
"Now therefore, I pray you, tarry ye also here this night, that I may know what the Lord will say unto me more." "And God came unto Balaam at night, and said unto him, If the men come to call thee, rise up, and go with them; but yet the word which I shall say unto thee, that shalt thou do." "And Balaam rose up in the morning, and saddled his ass, and went with the princes of Moab." [Num 22: 19-21]
Unfortunately for Balaam, when God got up in the morning, he had forgotten about their conversation.
"And God's anger was kindled because he went: and the angel of the Lord stood in the way for an adversary against him. Now he was riding upon his ass, and his two servants were with him." [Num 22: 22]
After a strange episode involving a talking ass, and an angel bent on killing Balaam, there is a happy ending. The angel also gives Balaam permission to go, and God gets his head straight.
"And Balaam said unto the angel of the Lord, I have sinned; for I knew not that thou stoodest in the way against me: now therefore, if it displease thee, I will get me back again." "And the angel of the Lord said unto Balaam, Go with the men: but only the word that I shall speak unto thee, that thou shalt speak. So Balaam went with the princes of Balak." [Numb 22: 34-35]
reposted from http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Thebes/8331
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Making Strides
by Kristen ini realized that one year has passed since i initially signed up on this board.
a year ago i was afraid of being part of this place; but knew it was necessary if i wanted to move beyond where i was.
today i am totally comfortable being around here.
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bboyneko
I am so thankful that we have this medium to group together. I can't imagine how lonely and isolated people were before being able to go online and connect with others who shared this part of their lives.
Thank you, you can contribute to the worldwide apostate work with a generous monetary contribution. Please direct all generous monetary contributions to Me. Thank you