Posts by Glenmore

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WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? Are you?

by Terry in

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methinks i pushed the topic button a wee tad too early!

here is what i meant to say.

if nobody else is responsible, then, are you?

Actually, one more thing. When we were about 6 months out one of the elders finally came by. He's "one of the annointed" and a lovely man. He told me he couldn't leave as he had helped 61 people into the "Truth" (I wasn't asking him to). The thing I won't forget is this:

A long-time brother at Bethel had told him that "the brothers would not be able to stand the changes to come".

At the time, I just thought it strange, just JW folklore about "special knowledge". But on reflection it seems to me this comment came from someone who KNEW the truth about "the Truth". It was bogus. And his position was to assume that it was better not to tell The Truth, but that is best for the R&F not to know.

That is controlling information to keep people in line, and that is EVIL.

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WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? Are you?

by Terry in

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methinks i pushed the topic button a wee tad too early!

here is what i meant to say.

if nobody else is responsible, then, are you?

Glenmore

Terry, that's better. I'd say that the individual becomes responsible when he or she KNOWS the facts and still follows blind leadership. Glen

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WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? Are you?

by Terry in

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methinks i pushed the topic button a wee tad too early!

here is what i meant to say.

if nobody else is responsible, then, are you?

Glenmore

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

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Is Jesus the Same Jehovah of the Hebrew text????

by JT in

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http://www.fundamentalbiblechurch.org/foundation/fbccitiesofrefuge.htm

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Glenmore

Sorry, that's bogus. They aren't the same, never were, never will be. But don't worry it's all a crock anyway. Jah've is the Midianite volanco god of Moses' father-in-law Jethro. Moses (the Greater Rutherford) had a mixed band of Israelites and monotheistic Egyptians (Aten worshippers) and needed a rallying theme. Jah've was picked by saying he picked them. It seemed it worked out. Jesus (IMHO) was a jewish-buddist-free thinker. The rest is made up.

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I'm not sure why I do this ...

by Glenmore in

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after about 18 months "out" (2000) i got myself a minister's license from the universal life church and registered with the local county (clackamas) so i can perform weddings.

originally it was because one of the gals at work was getting married and the fellow she had lined up to officiate backed out.

i thought (at the time) it would be deliciously naughty to "belong" to another "religion" and use my jw training to give a talk - it's kind of like a demo at a service mtg.

Glenmore

After about 18 months "out" (2000) I got myself a minister's license from the Universal Life Church and registered with the local county (Clackamas) so I can perform weddings. Originally it was because one of the gals at work was getting married and the fellow she had lined up to officiate backed out. I thought (at the time) it would be deliciously naughty to "belong" to another "religion" and use my JW training to give a talk - it's kind of like a demo at a Service Mtg. So the first one was fine.

Then came another, and another and another. I have one this afternoon, my daughter's boyfriend's brother. I don't (and won't) charge and I have this really weird transatlantic accent that many find endearing.

But it makes me really nervous, I have smoked 8 cigarettes so far this morning and have rewritten the wedding script twice - last night's rehearsal was almost a disaster. I don't really want to do this, but then I got this epiphanous moment about 1am: Maybe this is the best gift I can give anyone, maybe this is the best use of this talent I seem to have (I had several assembly parts when in the Collective, got a few laughs), so maybe it's a good thing to do. Smiling inwardly I drifted off to sleep.

I feel un-epiphanous this morning, but it will be over with by 3pm PST, I'll post y'all how it went.

But it does bother me why I open myself up for things like this, it's not the first (nor last) time I volunteered for something way out of my comfort zone.

Father Glen

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Swearing on the platform

by sleepy in

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did you every hear anyone say something really dodgy from the platform when giving a talk?

i heard a couple of stories of people getting really enthusiastic when giving a talk or pray accidently swearing.

one time in my book study group a sister called someone a dickhead in her answer, it was very hard not to laught.

Glenmore

Well, I was chairman one Sunday and after the talk I said "let's stand and a shake a leg or two or three and sing song such-and-such". I was counselled not to say things like that from the stage. As usual I always gravitated to turning my performance into some kinda stand-up comedy routine. I also said "half-assed" one time. I sincerely thought it was "half-fast" as in half-fastened - I'm a Limey I didn't know, the elders heads dropped (as usual). It's probably best that they deleted me later for telling them I should resign due to my immoderate drinking. Cheers! Glen

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Writing bad checks on Jehovah's account: the Governing Body

by Terry in

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the mouthpiece of jehovah speaks in his name with authority.

the governing body is the only channel of communication with the supreme being.

they identify themselves as the faithful and discreet slave.. if they are faithful, why do they write checks that bounce using jehovah's checking account?

Glenmore

Good question, particularly if you list the beliefs of the WTS in 1919 when chosen by Himself and those now. They would be disfellowshipped today for what Jesus approved back then.

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