Posts by myelaine

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I Believe Catholicism And Its Trappings Are Silly, Strange & Weird!!!

by minimus in

jw
friends

my italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.

these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".

they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.

myelaine

well, hopefully he is more responsive now...if he still has his job

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I Believe Catholicism And Its Trappings Are Silly, Strange & Weird!!!

by minimus in

jw
friends

my italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.

these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".

they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.

you stated: "My son went to a catholic school a couple of years ago, purely because my friend said it was a good school..I pulled him out after a few months because of a boy who was sexually abused in the toilets by a senior boy. I told the principle about it...he swept it under the carpet. Nothing much has changed. It just looks that way."...

did you bring your information to the police?

love michelle

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What do you replace it with?

by konceptual99 in

jw
friends

so... i am coming to the conclusion that pretty much all of the doctrinal stuff that i have believed for 25/30 years is built on a house of cards and it's about to come crashing down.

question is what do i replace it with?.

my intellectual head says that that whole thing is junk and there is almost certainly no god at all.

myelaine

dear King Solomon...

let's place the entire decision to have christianity as the dominant state religion in emperor constantine's lap. he was worshiped as a god, he could have a "toga party" evey day of the week, he had slaves, he could do ANYTHING he wanted to do...ANYWHERE. but he gave this all up so that he could have slaves in good conscience?...

kinda sounds like GOD had a lot of influence on his life, imo.

love michelle

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What do you replace it with?

by konceptual99 in

jw
friends

so... i am coming to the conclusion that pretty much all of the doctrinal stuff that i have believed for 25/30 years is built on a house of cards and it's about to come crashing down.

question is what do i replace it with?.

my intellectual head says that that whole thing is junk and there is almost certainly no god at all.

myelaine

dear King Solomon...

you said: "Jesus completely believed in and endorsed ALL principles found in the Torah"...try and convince a liberal christian half of that

I think that the bible has eluded to the reason behind the need for war. God didn't want to have His people completely corrupted by foreign practices in that He wanted to bring His Son into the world at a later date and be able to "show" in real time how His mission of sacrifice and forgiveness of sins was a reality of that which was foreshadowed in the law and sacrificial system. it is a given that if you want something to remain you have to take measure to preserve it...those are the measures that God took to preserve His "message" from generation to generation.

the fact that there is slavery in the bible and Jesus didn't speak against it seems to be a big problem with those who denounce the notion of God...the fact is that slavery was acceptable in most nations up until a couple of hundred years ago...the point is that the old testament laws might have had a more benevolent spirit towards slaves than the surrounding nations...and Jesus might have taught the church that they ought to continue the practice of benevolence as all, slave and free were actually equal in Gods eyes. this teaching WAS in opposition to the practice of the day where slaves, women and children were accounted as property with little worth...(I've read that one thing that brought the ire of the romans toward the christians is their practice of bringing home or adopting babies that had been left to die by the road or in a field because they were unwanted)...(So, if you can find information about other nations practices in order to compare them then you might not be so quick to judge israel...as their reasons are not ones that would be considered cultural and or personal ambition but "religious"...an expression of the Holiness of God so to speak)

Jesus commissioned His followers to preach all that He had taught them which does include the tenents of the faith which come from judaism...He did not tell His followers to learn and have an answer for every question that arises from the study of ancient texts...He did, however, set aside teachers who have made it their lifes work to study and have an answer or explaination for the questions that arise.

love michelle

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What do you replace it with?

by konceptual99 in

jw
friends

so... i am coming to the conclusion that pretty much all of the doctrinal stuff that i have believed for 25/30 years is built on a house of cards and it's about to come crashing down.

question is what do i replace it with?.

my intellectual head says that that whole thing is junk and there is almost certainly no god at all.

myelaine

dear King Solomon...

you did say: "you're trying to sell Jesus to a bunch of ex-Jesus salesmen"...you would be implying that these "knew their product".

...and that is why James Brown said:"You guys were not Jesus salesmen. Jehovahs witnesses dont believe Jesus is God."

though you may have thought that you knew all about Jesus because you were a JW, I contend that you didn't know Him at all because the very doctrines that the JW's expouse deny the fullness of His "being"...and those same doctrines also keep witnesses from seeing that they are called into the fullness of His salvation. by designing a false two classes doctrine the witnesses are cut off from incorporating all that Jesus taught into their "faith" AND hope in Him.

love michelle

p.s. there are plenty of people in and out of prison who have had life changing experiences...and it isn't a question of subjective experience per se, as others have been witness to that "life" changing...and glorify God because of it. you can easily dismiss the testimony of millions and millions of people because you didn't perceive that you had an encounter...THAT seems more like subjective experience

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Acts 4:21 - There Is No Salvation in Anyone Else

by Darth Rutherford in

(the watchtower, 11/1/1990, p.25, par.

-the watchtower 1/15/2011, p.4, par.

-the watchtower 12/15/2007, p.14, par.

myelaine

dear Darth Rutherford...

thank you for your time and effort in writing and posting this information.

I hope that the WT GB will turn their hearts to Jesus so that the Holy Spirit would be able to convict them of their error.

The GB needs to teach the witnesses about Jesus just like philip did with the ethiopian eunich and they must invite the witnesses to individually and publicly enter into the covenant with Jesus Christ or they will be bloodguilty at the judgement seat of Christ.

"Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me.

“These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you." john 14:23-26

love michelle

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A scary contrast I've been seeing in the bible

by EndofMysteries in

myelaine

dear EndofMysteries...

I believe that when the bible speaks of the earth being destroyed by fire that phraise can be explained by the "word" of Jesus.(matthew 3:11-12, 12:49, 2 thess 1:6-10) scripture indicates that in the end of time that His words would judge "the world".(john 12:48)

Have you heard the expression "fire and brimstone preacher"?...that is someone who preaches the whole council of God, including the parts about sin and judgement.

It is entirely possible that the malachi reference to elijah at the end of time is referring to him speaking the words of God (by the Spirit and power of God)in a "fire and brimstone" kind of way...which would be in keeping with certain elements of his character in the OT . (mal 3:2-3, 4:1)

how satan mimics the fire from heaven can be two fold...in speaking the word but misleading the masses by not declaring the whole council of God so that the word is without effect and therefore corrupted for the intended use (the Holy Spirit convicts of sin and judgement). Since satan is also active in the physical world he can and will use "physical" means as well as corrupting the "spiritual"...mankind should expect a manifestation in the physical realm in the form of "calling fire down from heaven"...however that fire is not the word of God but "firepower"...

The middle east conflict has prepared the physical battleground...and jerusalem is the hot spot. imo. (rev 11:7-10)...there are times in the bible that the spiritual is a pattern for the physical, not all things are seen with the "naked" eye...rev 3:17-18

love michelle

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What is this primitive notion of SELF-SACRIFICE?

by Terry in

among jehovah's witnesses self-sacrifice is a price everybody is expected to pay.. members of this religious group are told they are being watched by the world as a public spectacle in an ancient roman coliseum.. all sorts of sacrifices must be transacted to convince jehovah of their sincerety and to titillate the worldly people with spectacular acts of faith.. .

jw's give up the best secular education and the highest-paying careers.

it is a sacrifice.. jw's have been urged to give up marriage and child-rearing to devote time to door to door evangelizing work.

myelaine

obedience, submission, self-sacrifice...in a healthy relationship these acts are an indication of mutual respect and compromise.

love michelle

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Rescuing a God who is blind to Evil

by Terry in

have you ever gone shopping in a department store for shoes or clothes?.

do you just walk over to the rack or shelf and select what you want without trying anything on to see if it fits?.

no.. what good would that do?

myelaine

dear GLADIATOR...

you said: "A supreme being would not be subject to negative emotions or disappointments."...

Would you think it more supreme if God just set the operation in motion and split? Like the father who is always away on business?...I think the fact that God DOES have interaction with and even shares in mans joy and sorrow as well as showing wrath towards the evil that eventually destroys his creatures is a more profound example of a "supreme being." He shows understanding, He CAN pity us in His supremacy. The continuity of the life of man IS His business.

The attribute of love comes with many emotions...two are bitter and sweet.

love michelle

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Rescuing a God who is blind to Evil

by Terry in

have you ever gone shopping in a department store for shoes or clothes?.

do you just walk over to the rack or shelf and select what you want without trying anything on to see if it fits?.

no.. what good would that do?

myelaine

dear King Solomon...

I think Terry is suggesting that God doesn't know evil, in line with his "God is blind to evil" OP.

love michelle