Posts by myelaine

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Exactly what is the HISTORIC view of the DIVINE or of what being GOD meant long ago?

by TerryWalstrom in

the purpose of this topic is twofold.. first, any who are endlessly fascinated by scholarship, practised by genuine bible scholars, are urged by me to do what i did, subscribe to bart ehrman's blog.

the subscription money (as little as $3.95) goes entirely to charity.. secondarily, by broadening our view of the new testament era on up through two millennia to the present day, our knowledge of all things 'christian' is deepened to include actual knowledge (as opposed to watchtower fabrication.

by this i don't mean to imply you'll fall to your knees and get saved, but rather, you'll simply have facts to inform your present transitional mindset toward whatever end you finally choose.. now .

myelaine

I can understand where OT prophets, priests and kings could acquire an air of divinity. The NT saints were even given this type of honour by some people but, Jesus was more closely aligned with DEITY where the others both OT and NT were kept firmly on the ground in their roles as "divinity" as can be seen in their strictly human foibles being included in the text. How these roles were appreciated in the day to day lives of the OT hebrew people likely CAN be seen in jewish literature of the time. I just doubt that it had any influence on the main purveyors of the religion of the jews by the time of Christ. The silence of God for 400 years likely contributed to their hesitance to see ANYONE "new" as divine...think JtB.

matthew 16:16-17

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Exactly what is the HISTORIC view of the DIVINE or of what being GOD meant long ago?

by TerryWalstrom in

the purpose of this topic is twofold.. first, any who are endlessly fascinated by scholarship, practised by genuine bible scholars, are urged by me to do what i did, subscribe to bart ehrman's blog.

the subscription money (as little as $3.95) goes entirely to charity.. secondarily, by broadening our view of the new testament era on up through two millennia to the present day, our knowledge of all things 'christian' is deepened to include actual knowledge (as opposed to watchtower fabrication.

by this i don't mean to imply you'll fall to your knees and get saved, but rather, you'll simply have facts to inform your present transitional mindset toward whatever end you finally choose.. now .

myelaine

Wasn't it jewish disciples who started calling Jesus Son of God because of the miracles(works of God)? Does Bart suggest that these jewish disciples bought into the notion that earthly entities were entitled to the title of God merely because it was de rigueur?

the thought than Jesus WASN'T the Son of God was contested by other factions in the jewish population. This leads me to believe that the titles Son of God and God weren't borne of the "pyramid scheme".

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Uh oh ... caching issues

by Simon in

seems to be some caching issues with the latest update i just released - i'm looking into it.. strange - seems like certain pages are 'stuck'..

myelaine

merci beaucoup <3 <3 <3

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Uh oh ... caching issues

by Simon in

seems to be some caching issues with the latest update i just released - i'm looking into it.. strange - seems like certain pages are 'stuck'..

myelaine

dear Simon...

I've noticed that my post count is halved from 1200ish to 600ish. I was looking for a specific thread I started called, "THE SEED" and it's gone...the first two years of my posting history is gone. infact, my profile says I've been posting for 10 years and I know that it's been over 11. (August 4, 2004)

(my boyfriend deleted ten years worth of my "stuff" this week...everything...all my pictures, files...everything...my entire desktop...gone. I'm hypersensitive about my "stuff" now as you can imagine. *sob*)

love michelle <3

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Books/texts/scriptures mentioned in the bible , though not incorporated in the bible cannon .

by smiddy in

if a bible writer / scribe refers to a particular book text or scripture by name , for one reason or another, shouldn`t that be a legitimate reason for including it in the bible cannon as a part of the bible ?.

just how many texts , books, scriptures are left out of the old testament bible that are mentioned there in and how many, if any are their in the new testament..

myelaine

dear smiddy....

you said: "Imperfect human beings had their own agenda for selecting what was to be considered scriptures inspired by God and what was not ,giving us the Bible we have today"...

it's also possible that God desired to focus on the doctrine of the faith and was present in whittling down the books to be chosen as the christian canon. (1 timothy 1:3-4; 1 timothy 2:4-5,7; 1 timothy 3:14-15; 1 timothy 4:6; 1 timothy 4:13; 1 timothy 4:16...)

perhaps those books not included aren't profitable for teaching the christian doctrine.

love michelle <3

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Rev 17:9 - Thoughts?

by leaving_quietly in

rev 17:9 describes something about the "woman", the harlot, babylon the great:.

here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: the seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top.

and there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while.. i was dreaming about this verse last night, so i thought i'd look it up.

myelaine

Sorry, correction re: my previous post. this is the video that talks about rev 17:9 at the 32:00 minute mark.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KIzyji-eVdY

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Rev 17:9 - Thoughts?

by leaving_quietly in

rev 17:9 describes something about the "woman", the harlot, babylon the great:.

here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: the seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top.

and there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while.. i was dreaming about this verse last night, so i thought i'd look it up.

myelaine

Interesting biblical exposition of babylon et al...fast forward to 12:00 minute mark. 32:00 minute mark starts to cover rev 17:9

http://youtu.be/BD_N9t2j9jg

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Blondie's Comments on the 1-18-2015 WT Study (HOLY)

by blondie in

november 15, 2014 wt study issue.

january 18, 2015 to be studied.

opening comments.

myelaine

dear Joe Grundy...

one reason for the law was to separate a people out of the nations for God. this separateness is an aspect of the holiness of God as well. Through this separate nation came the oracles of God. So, when looking at the nation of israel we should be aware of BOTH the law and the prophets.

the first christians were jewish, they were separated unto the law AND through Jesus they were given more insight into the oracles...God revealed His plan for this people more fully. As gentiles became christians the same idea of being a people separated unto God was in view. (the one people called israel) this is one way of showing a bridge between OT and NT faith in One God.

Another way is in the teaching of grace or mercy...the sacrificial system was a means to obtain Gods mercy from year to year because it is impossible to keep the law in it's entirety. Especially Jews who desired to SUBMIT to God were dependant on His mercy through their sacrificial offering. (Maybe you can see a mind obeying and a heart submitting kind of difference there?) that's why Jesus said to the pharisees that they did everything that the law required but they forgot justice and mercy...their heart wasn't in it, so to speak. Jesus is our sacrifice for the mercy of God.

When Jesus came He magnified the law showing that being separated to God and being holy is more than "keeping" the law in external observance, but "keeping" this law, that separates us from the nations, in our heart...the inward man. I suppose this is where I can mention that yes, there are millions of people who are good and honest hearted who obey PART of the golden rule but, they haven't obeyed all of it because they haven't acknowledged God (in the law and the prophets).(Matthew 7:12)...that is about submission.

love michelle <3

p.s. I sort of rambled too :)

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Called on a DF'd person today.

by kairos in

wow, what a surprise that was!.

i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.

totally caught me off guard.

myelaine

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmNRzGci0cA

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Where is Everyone????

by truthlover in

jw
friends

missing a lot of the oldies and goodies -- is this site so new, no one has signed on yet?

i am confused... but then, i will have to wait and see what happens.. somehow - change is not the best option but we adjust..have most of the users gone to other locations?.

tl.

myelaine

I've noticed that a few people have new user names and so I wanted to forego sending a pm to the old "avitar" but I wanted...you...to know:

I've been kind of troubled by "stuff" for the last month or so and because of that I just didn't feel like sending out the Christmas cards that I usually do...I'm sorry about that. I know the joy of finding a card in the mail because it isn't a bill...lol. Anyway to all those who I DO think about throughout the year...I still hold you in my heart and hope that you are richly blessed in the New Year...xoxo

p.s. thank you for the cards you've sent, they are very appreciated <3