diamondblue1974,
Let's not forget all the grumbling in the desert. Plus, clearly Moses was a man of God, we can only take the parallel so far.
I am equating the WBTS with the Pharaoh and the witnesses to the Israelites.
michelle
diamondblue1974,
Let's not forget all the grumbling in the desert. Plus, clearly Moses was a man of God, we can only take the parallel so far.
I am equating the WBTS with the Pharaoh and the witnesses to the Israelites.
michelle
While looking for and answer to a question this morning I came across a scripture that REALLY made me think about the role that the WBTS might play in Gods plan. The scripture is:
Romans 9:17...
For the scripture says to Pharaoh," Even for this same purpose I have raised you up, that I might show My power in you, and that My name might be declared in all the earth."
Now, we know that the Pharaoh was not a very "cool" dude as far as God was concerned, but God used him. Could God be using the WBTS just to get His name or the word of God out into the world right now. If this is a parallel situation (and it could be given that the witnesses are like slaves) then, would God be saying that THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS? Or, is the WBTS message just too far removed from the real message of the gospel to be of any use in leading (enough) people into a living relationship with God the Father?
In verse 20 of the same chapter God is asking the reader....in a round about way, why do you question my ways?
I would like to add that I haven't decided to give my support to the WBTS and nor will I, would I support the Pharaoh? NO. But maybe the WBTS has its place and if so, can we expect the deliverance of the slaves any time soon because Gods name has covered the earth?
Any comments, or should I go back to bed?
michelle
Can I give my place in your heavenly kingdom to someone who will most likely die with an "earthly hope"? I'd really like that person to get to know the real you.
you may not remember, but i know you very well.
i met you a long time ago when you came to my house with your smiling faces, your neat clothes, and your soft voices, and a bible tucked neatly under your arm.
you told me beautiful stories of a "paradise earth," and a "righteous new system" which would be established shortly.
I have to hate the ENTITY behind the WBTS. Satan has a strong hold on the minds and hearts of the leaders of this thankless cult. May God have mercy on their souls. May God show His mercy to those who have come under the oppression and lies that this organization calls "the truth".
Psalms 59:11-12
Do not kill them, that my people may not forget. By your vital energy make them wander about, and bring them down, O our shield Jehovah, for the sin of their mouth, the word of their lips; and may they be caught in their pride, even for the cursing and the deception that they rehearse.
love michelle
numerous greek and biblical scholars have declared that the nwt is a poor and biased translation.. the late dr. walter martin observed that of the anonymous seven-member translation committee at least five had no training in greek: "these books possess a veneer of scholarship unrivaled for its daring and boldness in a field that all informed scholars know jehovah's witnesses are almost totally unprepared to venture into.
as a matter of fact, the authors have been able to uncover partially a carefully guarded watchtower secret; the names of five of the member of the new world translation committee.
not one of these five people has any training in greek...(or hebrew).. dr. julius mantey a leading greek scholar in the world stated: "i have never read any new testament so badly translated as the kingdom interlinear translation of the greek scriptures.
the NWT just doesn't sound right when you read it out loud, the speech is too....umm...abrupt?...cold? there is nothing poetic in their choice of words. Do you know what I mean?Other than that the message still comes through.
michelle
7 ?for nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.
8 all these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
9 ?then people will deliver you up to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.
jaffacake,
for me the call to "stay awake" means, KEEP THE FAITH. Some believers just aren't interested in signs, and may not notice them, they may become discouraged for whatever reason. That's fine..... but.... don't give up your hope....STAY AWAKE!
Like the parable of the ten virgins matt 25:1-13 a dead faith is nothing, you need a present active faith, you need oil in your lamp.
michelle
7 ?for nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.
8 all these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
9 ?then people will deliver you up to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.
jaffacake,
We certainly are agreed. And in response to the title of the thread, yes. That's why I also say "the due time has arrived". I'm not panicing and my intention was to draw attention to another sign that some may not realize because they haven't dug into the riches of the Bible. There's tonnes more.
michelle
Isaiah 35:1
the wilderness and the wasteland shall be glad for them, AND THE DESERT SHALL REJOICE AND BLOSSOM AS THE ROSE....
i just wanted everyone to know that this is the concllusion i have come to.
i have been trying to improve my dancing lately, but the harder i try the worse it gets.
have you ever seen elaine dance on seinfeld?
I don't think so.....My BF is.....He has all the moves of frozen jello.
michelle
7 ?for nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.
8 all these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
9 ?then people will deliver you up to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.
jaffacake,
sorry I don't put any faith in any date formulas, regardless of WHO expounds them.
doogie,
as a servant of God the fact that there is a state of Israel NOW brings joy to my heart, refreshes my soul and strengthens my bones, so to speak, because I think that it is fulfillment of prophesy for the last generation. As far as the rest of the scripture quoted, when Israel was recognised as a nation, her neighbours were enraged. Look at the continuing conflict, their sole aim is to push Israel into the sea. Perhaps her enemies don't see the Lords hand in her rebirth, but they have GOT to be scratching their heads wondering why and how on earth?
michelle
7 ?for nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.
8 all these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
9 ?then people will deliver you up to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.
DOOGIE,
i'm just curious, are you using this in reference to Israel gaining statehood in 1948?
yes.
michelle