Posts by Survivor2004

19

...they neither marry, nor are given in marriage...

by Tashawaa in

one of the hardest doctrines of the witnesses that i couldn't wrap my little brain around, was the teaching that the resurrected would not marry.. i remember one assembly, a whole talk was spent on the resurrection, and emphasis was placed on the fact that they would not marry.

the couple sitting in front of me (obviously a happy couple, 'cause this distressed them) whispered how they just couldn't believe it.. here's the scripture they use to back their doctrine:.

matt 22:22-33 specifically vs 30 "for in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as angels in heaven...".

Survivor2004

Hmmmm

I always thought it was the "annointed" in heaven who they were talking about who would not get married as they would no longer be physical beings but spiritual beings.

A strong sister of an elder told me that it was the "annointed" who will not marry as they lost their fleshly bodies and desires,but ALL people of the earthly class living on the earth who are physical beings with physical desires would always be able to marry as that is the way Jehovah created us.

Thats what I was told because that use to bother me too.

Who wants to live FOREVER alone????

Ann

30

any favorite TV shows you absolutely cannot miss?

by brwneyedgrl1 in

i dont have much time to watch a lot of tv b/c im so busy w/ work and school but i am obsessed with monk and i have to watch it every friday night.

i even hate making plans friday nights cuz i dont like to miss it...what a dork, i know.

i also like family guy on cartoon network...so hilarious.

Survivor2004

Im a very busy gal with my businesses but there are a few shows that I will NOT miss.

Here are some of my favorite not necesarily in that order.

Jay Leno

Connan O,Brian

Survivor

Fear Factor

*The Apprentice* (Your fired!!!)

Cops

America,s Most Wanted (He is one of my hero,s having lost his own son to a maniac his show has caught so many scumbag hardened criminals)

The Swan (yes Im a reality show buff)

Then,,,

The Y&R ( I was told by one sister that I could die at Armegeddon for watching immoral soap opera,s,funny,I thought that there were WORSE things than that like child molesting) :)

The Bold and the beautiful

and last but not least,,,.

Old re-runs of All In The Family.(my favorite sitcom of all time)

I do not miss any of these shows.

Ann

56

JW SINGLES site shut down due to GUILT!

by Survivor2004 in

jw
friends

hi folks.. i have been lurking on and off for about 2 years now and before i did post a couple threads under my old alias but it wont accept it for some reason so i had to re-join.. anyway there was a singles site called jwsingles.net by a nice fellow who wanted to help other lonely jw single folks meet but he is about to shut it down despite some success stories which i guess makes the elders upset.. i had joined two years ago and was on the mailing list(i,ve been inactive for about 5 years now)thats the short version,anyway,i got this e-mail from him the other day and it really infuriated me because he did nothing wrong but again the organization wants to control every aspect of their lives,including not letting jw,s put up harmless websites for singles to meet.after all in many many congregations there is a severe shortage of available singles right?and,if they dont even want you to look for a mate in their own organization (on the net) then they will look outside of the organization but i guess they are too dense to understand that.. his letter wreaks of guilt and he hangs his head in shame at congregations.i fail to see how he has stumbled others here.its none of others business what adult jw,s want to meet someone.. i understand the heartache of being all alone for many many years with no one and no suitable mates there as they were too stuffy and i felt like i could never match up no matter how hard i tried.i shed too many tears to count as im sure many here have as well.. anyway here is the e-mail.. greetings friends.. this will most likely be the last message you recieve from jw singles.net.. the site has been running for several years now with its main goal to help those of like faith find and if they wish contact each other.we,ve met that goal with several success stories.im very glad to say that an old friend of mine from a congregation in maryland met a wonderful sister from california.after months of phone calls and trips and bible studies over the phone,they were married.both are extremely happy with their new mates.. there are other stories the friends have shared when asking to have their profiles removed.. however i cannot continue to justify the site against the councel of the wbt society.i am tired of sinking in my seat at assemblies and conventions when they mention websites to avoid.it is also not my place to second guess the faithful and discreet salve and the connection they have with jehovahs spirit in guiding the organization in these last days.while i believe that with proper theocratic guidelines this site can be used ,like many have demonstrated to a good cause,i will not possibly stumble my brothers and sisters.. i have thought of selling the site to help recoup the expenses i incurred while developing and running the site ,but again i dont want the responsibility of passing it off to someone else,possibly a wordly company or person.. after the last paying members subscription has run out,i will open the full site with access to every member .this will be the last chance to try and contact some of the 2000 members we have.right now im targeting september as the final month the site will run.our information on the site will be deleted as the database of users is erased.if you care to make a donation of any size while the site is still open to everyone our paypal address is _________ or contact me for a mailing address.. thanks to all those who have tried to help and build the idea i had into a functioning and useful program.i wish you all well and continued strenght in this time of the end.all of the friends are tired and are struggling just to make it to meetings instead of staying home with a headache or working a little late.be upbuilding to each other ,help to show love amongst ourselves and continue to walk with god until the end.. agape.

brian.

jw singles.net'.

Survivor2004

Hi again Rabbit.

Thanks.

Yes many people lurk ,whats the big deal? And when I tried to use my old alias(Survivor1) it would not work so I had to register again.

Whats the big deal?

I see someone making something out of NOTHING and its a complete waste of typing time and space.

Overly active Suspicious mind.

Also you are dead on the money!

Many are here who do not want to lose contact with their family members! Doesnt this person here REALIZE that?

Also,inactive ones like me can be disfellowshiped for being here.I dont want to give them that benefit!!!

I have also seen other inacitve ones here,I,ve seen inactive ones,ACTIVE ones,disfellowshipped ones,dissasociated ones,fence sitters,curious ones,etc,,.Everyone here is here for their own reasons and going through their own garbage in their own way.I have actually found ex-jw,s WAY more supportive than JW,s who,s friendships are 100% CONDITIONAL! With JW,s its either black or white.Your wrong or right.Your for Jehovah or Satan.They never even consider that maybe you fell away cause you just couldnt handle the load any more and the BURDEN was more than you could take adspecially when your on your own.Heck I had virtually no friends there at all,the ones I did have were too busy with their FAMILIES and PIONEERING.I was not allowed worldly friends so what does a single person do? Crawl in a hole and DIE? Go mentally insane from no human relationships,conversations,confidences etc,,?Im a people person! Im very social and friendly,I use to go to get togethers at work and I was always looked down on for doing that.I had to have some PEOPLE in my life! LOL Im a very independent,strong person who loves space BUT I also like a active social life and I like to go out and do things.I suffered more lonliness in the truth than in ANY stage of my life!.Im way older and mature for my years because of all that I have been though.No one was ever there for me,just to talk to.

Anyway sorry for rambling.

Have a great day all

Ann

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-Albert Einstein

56

JW SINGLES site shut down due to GUILT!

by Survivor2004 in

jw
friends

hi folks.. i have been lurking on and off for about 2 years now and before i did post a couple threads under my old alias but it wont accept it for some reason so i had to re-join.. anyway there was a singles site called jwsingles.net by a nice fellow who wanted to help other lonely jw single folks meet but he is about to shut it down despite some success stories which i guess makes the elders upset.. i had joined two years ago and was on the mailing list(i,ve been inactive for about 5 years now)thats the short version,anyway,i got this e-mail from him the other day and it really infuriated me because he did nothing wrong but again the organization wants to control every aspect of their lives,including not letting jw,s put up harmless websites for singles to meet.after all in many many congregations there is a severe shortage of available singles right?and,if they dont even want you to look for a mate in their own organization (on the net) then they will look outside of the organization but i guess they are too dense to understand that.. his letter wreaks of guilt and he hangs his head in shame at congregations.i fail to see how he has stumbled others here.its none of others business what adult jw,s want to meet someone.. i understand the heartache of being all alone for many many years with no one and no suitable mates there as they were too stuffy and i felt like i could never match up no matter how hard i tried.i shed too many tears to count as im sure many here have as well.. anyway here is the e-mail.. greetings friends.. this will most likely be the last message you recieve from jw singles.net.. the site has been running for several years now with its main goal to help those of like faith find and if they wish contact each other.we,ve met that goal with several success stories.im very glad to say that an old friend of mine from a congregation in maryland met a wonderful sister from california.after months of phone calls and trips and bible studies over the phone,they were married.both are extremely happy with their new mates.. there are other stories the friends have shared when asking to have their profiles removed.. however i cannot continue to justify the site against the councel of the wbt society.i am tired of sinking in my seat at assemblies and conventions when they mention websites to avoid.it is also not my place to second guess the faithful and discreet salve and the connection they have with jehovahs spirit in guiding the organization in these last days.while i believe that with proper theocratic guidelines this site can be used ,like many have demonstrated to a good cause,i will not possibly stumble my brothers and sisters.. i have thought of selling the site to help recoup the expenses i incurred while developing and running the site ,but again i dont want the responsibility of passing it off to someone else,possibly a wordly company or person.. after the last paying members subscription has run out,i will open the full site with access to every member .this will be the last chance to try and contact some of the 2000 members we have.right now im targeting september as the final month the site will run.our information on the site will be deleted as the database of users is erased.if you care to make a donation of any size while the site is still open to everyone our paypal address is _________ or contact me for a mailing address.. thanks to all those who have tried to help and build the idea i had into a functioning and useful program.i wish you all well and continued strenght in this time of the end.all of the friends are tired and are struggling just to make it to meetings instead of staying home with a headache or working a little late.be upbuilding to each other ,help to show love amongst ourselves and continue to walk with god until the end.. agape.

brian.

jw singles.net'.

Survivor2004

Hi Syn.

Thanks for the welcome and your brutal honesty. :)

Ann

37

How Do You Regard Yourself?

by minimus in

jw
friends

are you happy about who you are?

do you look down upon yourself?

are ya feelin' pretty good about yourself these days??

Survivor2004

I feel very good about myself UNTIL I get around a JW(like when they come to my door) then the GUILT kicks in.

When they are not around Im happy.

56

JW SINGLES site shut down due to GUILT!

by Survivor2004 in

jw
friends

hi folks.. i have been lurking on and off for about 2 years now and before i did post a couple threads under my old alias but it wont accept it for some reason so i had to re-join.. anyway there was a singles site called jwsingles.net by a nice fellow who wanted to help other lonely jw single folks meet but he is about to shut it down despite some success stories which i guess makes the elders upset.. i had joined two years ago and was on the mailing list(i,ve been inactive for about 5 years now)thats the short version,anyway,i got this e-mail from him the other day and it really infuriated me because he did nothing wrong but again the organization wants to control every aspect of their lives,including not letting jw,s put up harmless websites for singles to meet.after all in many many congregations there is a severe shortage of available singles right?and,if they dont even want you to look for a mate in their own organization (on the net) then they will look outside of the organization but i guess they are too dense to understand that.. his letter wreaks of guilt and he hangs his head in shame at congregations.i fail to see how he has stumbled others here.its none of others business what adult jw,s want to meet someone.. i understand the heartache of being all alone for many many years with no one and no suitable mates there as they were too stuffy and i felt like i could never match up no matter how hard i tried.i shed too many tears to count as im sure many here have as well.. anyway here is the e-mail.. greetings friends.. this will most likely be the last message you recieve from jw singles.net.. the site has been running for several years now with its main goal to help those of like faith find and if they wish contact each other.we,ve met that goal with several success stories.im very glad to say that an old friend of mine from a congregation in maryland met a wonderful sister from california.after months of phone calls and trips and bible studies over the phone,they were married.both are extremely happy with their new mates.. there are other stories the friends have shared when asking to have their profiles removed.. however i cannot continue to justify the site against the councel of the wbt society.i am tired of sinking in my seat at assemblies and conventions when they mention websites to avoid.it is also not my place to second guess the faithful and discreet salve and the connection they have with jehovahs spirit in guiding the organization in these last days.while i believe that with proper theocratic guidelines this site can be used ,like many have demonstrated to a good cause,i will not possibly stumble my brothers and sisters.. i have thought of selling the site to help recoup the expenses i incurred while developing and running the site ,but again i dont want the responsibility of passing it off to someone else,possibly a wordly company or person.. after the last paying members subscription has run out,i will open the full site with access to every member .this will be the last chance to try and contact some of the 2000 members we have.right now im targeting september as the final month the site will run.our information on the site will be deleted as the database of users is erased.if you care to make a donation of any size while the site is still open to everyone our paypal address is _________ or contact me for a mailing address.. thanks to all those who have tried to help and build the idea i had into a functioning and useful program.i wish you all well and continued strenght in this time of the end.all of the friends are tired and are struggling just to make it to meetings instead of staying home with a headache or working a little late.be upbuilding to each other ,help to show love amongst ourselves and continue to walk with god until the end.. agape.

brian.

jw singles.net'.

Survivor2004

I remember going to different halls to WIDEN OUT and meet others adspecially single ones.

I told a sister once and she got a inquisitive,uncertain,pity pot look on her face and said I could not jump from hall to hall looking for a mate,I dont know I think thats kind of you know,DESPERATE.

I said to her but singles here ARE in a desperate state! There are NONE!

I said what the heck is wrong by looking in JEHOVAHS ORGANIZATION for a mate? If you cant find anyone there,eventually you are going to look ELSEWHERE!(The world) Well she didnt say a word.

The GUILT for wanting to find someone you CONNECT with was overwhelming.

Your not allowed to hall hop,that makes you look DESPERATE,ON THE MAKE,ROFL!!!,Your not allowed to use Internet dating,you,ll be mocked and ACCUSED of STUMBLING others.(since when is wanting a mate in the organization stumbling others?????????????) You only have TWO days to meet singles at conventions,so what do you do????Adspecially if your a sister(suppose to wait for the man to make the first move)Are you suppose to walk up to someone,start a conversation and say hey Im single too,want to go for coffee?Get togethers at the hall were ALWAYS full of married couples and families,and one time (oh this had me red)a publication came out on HOW TO MEET OTHERS ON THE CONGREGATION,well it basically said that many singles have shown much conncern at the lack of available mates in certain areas, and they gave some tips(theocratic style) on how to meet others.Their advice just did not work in the REAL WORLD!! lol,and I have seen situations where folks DID meet but because one or both were LABELLED "spiritually weak" they were counceled,the elders interfered and it went no where cause of all the constant interference and stress.(they were both babtized and old enought to marry,about 25)So if your weak or inactive they dont have to marry you right?And,,,they CANT get married in the world,LOL,They COULD go to a JP and get married and keep it non religious but then they would probably be shunned.

If your single in the org expect lots of frustration,heartache and loneliness.

Boy it sure FEELS good to air all this out after lurking for two years!!!LOL Like a burden being lifted(im not one to talk about my problems but keep them to myself)

I dont know whats gotten into me. :)

Ann

56

JW SINGLES site shut down due to GUILT!

by Survivor2004 in

jw
friends

hi folks.. i have been lurking on and off for about 2 years now and before i did post a couple threads under my old alias but it wont accept it for some reason so i had to re-join.. anyway there was a singles site called jwsingles.net by a nice fellow who wanted to help other lonely jw single folks meet but he is about to shut it down despite some success stories which i guess makes the elders upset.. i had joined two years ago and was on the mailing list(i,ve been inactive for about 5 years now)thats the short version,anyway,i got this e-mail from him the other day and it really infuriated me because he did nothing wrong but again the organization wants to control every aspect of their lives,including not letting jw,s put up harmless websites for singles to meet.after all in many many congregations there is a severe shortage of available singles right?and,if they dont even want you to look for a mate in their own organization (on the net) then they will look outside of the organization but i guess they are too dense to understand that.. his letter wreaks of guilt and he hangs his head in shame at congregations.i fail to see how he has stumbled others here.its none of others business what adult jw,s want to meet someone.. i understand the heartache of being all alone for many many years with no one and no suitable mates there as they were too stuffy and i felt like i could never match up no matter how hard i tried.i shed too many tears to count as im sure many here have as well.. anyway here is the e-mail.. greetings friends.. this will most likely be the last message you recieve from jw singles.net.. the site has been running for several years now with its main goal to help those of like faith find and if they wish contact each other.we,ve met that goal with several success stories.im very glad to say that an old friend of mine from a congregation in maryland met a wonderful sister from california.after months of phone calls and trips and bible studies over the phone,they were married.both are extremely happy with their new mates.. there are other stories the friends have shared when asking to have their profiles removed.. however i cannot continue to justify the site against the councel of the wbt society.i am tired of sinking in my seat at assemblies and conventions when they mention websites to avoid.it is also not my place to second guess the faithful and discreet salve and the connection they have with jehovahs spirit in guiding the organization in these last days.while i believe that with proper theocratic guidelines this site can be used ,like many have demonstrated to a good cause,i will not possibly stumble my brothers and sisters.. i have thought of selling the site to help recoup the expenses i incurred while developing and running the site ,but again i dont want the responsibility of passing it off to someone else,possibly a wordly company or person.. after the last paying members subscription has run out,i will open the full site with access to every member .this will be the last chance to try and contact some of the 2000 members we have.right now im targeting september as the final month the site will run.our information on the site will be deleted as the database of users is erased.if you care to make a donation of any size while the site is still open to everyone our paypal address is _________ or contact me for a mailing address.. thanks to all those who have tried to help and build the idea i had into a functioning and useful program.i wish you all well and continued strenght in this time of the end.all of the friends are tired and are struggling just to make it to meetings instead of staying home with a headache or working a little late.be upbuilding to each other ,help to show love amongst ourselves and continue to walk with god until the end.. agape.

brian.

jw singles.net'.

Survivor2004

Thank you jgnat and Rabbit.

I appreciate your support!.

Yes every forum has good and bad,judgemental,kind,argumentive,funny,serious,nosy,bullying,happy,helpful,etc,.All kinds of personalities. I have been on forums for three years and EXPERIENCE tells me to IGNORE the stressful posters and just mingle with the others.I have enough stress in my life ,the GOOD thing is I have CHOICE as to how much stress I want to put up with adspecially on forums.So now I just ignore what I dont want to read.

Simple. :)

By the way the emoticons dont work for me,I dont know why.

Ann

32

Once You Start Getting Embarrassed That People Know You're A JW It's 2 Late

by minimus in

jw
friends

for many new witnesses, there was a certain pride associated with being "a jehovah's witness".

they loved telling people they couldn't salute the flag, vote, take blood, have a hangover, have oral sex....you get the idea.

once it dawns on jws how dumb and ridicouolus they sound, it's the beginning of the end.

Survivor2004

Oh yes.LOL I see what you meant now.

That if a married JW couple does oral sex they are commiting acts of homosexuality!

HAHAHAHAH

Yeah right!

I forgot about that unbelievable,stupid,illogical Society statement.

Great spirits have always enountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-Albert Einstein

32

Once You Start Getting Embarrassed That People Know You're A JW It's 2 Late

by minimus in

jw
friends

for many new witnesses, there was a certain pride associated with being "a jehovah's witness".

they loved telling people they couldn't salute the flag, vote, take blood, have a hangover, have oral sex....you get the idea.

once it dawns on jws how dumb and ridicouolus they sound, it's the beginning of the end.

Survivor2004

My whole POINT was even in the marital bedroom there are rules and do,s and dont,s.

None of their business.What a man and woman does in their marital bedroom is THEIR business and no one elses.

Are there ANY waters where they will NOT tread?

Unreal

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition by mediocre minds-Albert Einstein

32

Once You Start Getting Embarrassed That People Know You're A JW It's 2 Late

by minimus in

jw
friends

for many new witnesses, there was a certain pride associated with being "a jehovah's witness".

they loved telling people they couldn't salute the flag, vote, take blood, have a hangover, have oral sex....you get the idea.

once it dawns on jws how dumb and ridicouolus they sound, it's the beginning of the end.

Survivor2004

Homosexuals perform oral sex on each other.

Of course.They are improvising for what they dont have.