since 'merica isn't directly involved you may get some non combatitive responses to this atrocity.
Its amazing that so many people have excuses for why the numbers are inflated or why it's not as bad as it may seem
whatever the reasons, whatever the excuses, whatever the denials - its still a tragedy:.
100 years ago, 1.5 million christian armenians were systematically killed.
today, it's still not a 'genocide'.
since 'merica isn't directly involved you may get some non combatitive responses to this atrocity.
Its amazing that so many people have excuses for why the numbers are inflated or why it's not as bad as it may seem
is there anyway to perform either of the two options listed above.
i created a post with a title that is confusing and would like to correct it.
is this possible for myself or an admin to perform?
The post is title no more eating children with the rod. It should have been beating children with the rod.
I use a Mac as well and when I clicked the edit button I also did not get a text box.
however after thinking about it the thread is to far gone at this point with gifs etc so it may be better to just delete it or something
is there anyway to perform either of the two options listed above.
i created a post with a title that is confusing and would like to correct it.
is this possible for myself or an admin to perform?
so a friend of mine who is still in and knows i am disassociated sent me an email saying the following, "hey, did you see the new article about disciplining your children?????
there is not one single outright mention of beating your kids anymore.
no mention of the r"rod of discipline"!
so a friend of mine who is still in and knows i am disassociated sent me an email saying the following, "hey, did you see the new article about disciplining your children?????
there is not one single outright mention of beating your kids anymore.
no mention of the r"rod of discipline"!
so a friend of mine who is still in and knows i am disassociated sent me an email saying the following, "hey, did you see the new article about disciplining your children?????
there is not one single outright mention of beating your kids anymore.
no mention of the r"rod of discipline"!
So a friend of mine who is still in and knows I am disassociated sent me an email saying the following, "Hey, did you see the new article about disciplining your children????? There is not one single outright mention of beating your kids anymore. No mention of the r"rod of discipline"!
Even the scripture that says, " foolishness is tied up in the heart of a boy" is mentioned but the last part of it is gone that talks about the ROD. I find this rather strange. They also state that discipline does not involve abuse or cruelty.
I guess they are changing with the times,... or with the lawsuits. ROFL
I personally can not stomach reading the full article to verify, but if this is true I do find this somewhat interesting. If only they could have felt this way 30+ years ago when I was constantly getting the shit beat out of me. These current JW's have it easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=373zbncuuoq
Like most apostasy judicial cases it is apparent that midway through when the accused starts to bring up points in the bible and elsewhere that demonstrate how foolish watchtower beliefs are etc... the elders are no longer trying to bring that person back. They are merely stating things with the hopes of solidifying their own beliefs and that of their fellow elders as they sit there.
I have sat in on 3 of these cases and that is what happens every single time. As a matter of fact after the meeting is over the brothers will stand outside in the parking lot or sit in the car and continue to "sound down" into themselves watchtower teachings with the hopes that they are not going to allow the apostates points to dwell on their minds when they leave
i have heard that at the international conventions and even at us headquarters, the governing body travel with entourages or bodyguards.
does anyone know this to be a fact?
if so, why?
I remember while at Bethel when they were having the huge apostate protest they have every year right around lunchtime, Brother sidled wasting ready to walk from 25-30 Columbia Heights down to Standish wish is the complete other end of the block. Myself and a few other young pathetic brothers were so concerned thinking these crazy lunatic apostates would try to kill him... (how fucking Lame)
Anyway we saw him getting ready to go and in a panic began to ask and in some sense beg to protect him He responded with something along the lines that even if they did do something he was going to heaven anyway and he walked solo to the other building... no bodyguard.
My room mate was brother Schroders(sp) caretaker and travelled with him wherever he went to tend to his needs. Helped him up and down the stairs for the stage. Carried things for him etc.. He was like 5 foot 6 and not a protector type. No bodyguards or anything like that.
i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .
we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .
i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .
I was like you for a while after I left. I could not except the fact that the bible was not from GOD. Then I sat down one day and really read the book of Judges. It opened my eyes to the fact that the bible is really nothing more than a cool novel at best. After deeper research I realized that every so called moral lesson in the bible was pretty much borrowed from somewhere else.
It takes time. Just keep reading with an opened mined and think of all those people that had no access to the bible for millennia and ask why god didn't care enough to let them have that same wonderful novel.
this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.
start the count here with my wife and i.
its funny you mention this. TODAY i went to the post office and as I got to the door I saw a brother who was an elder with me in my old congregation.I remember him and his wife (both in their early 50's) always used on those parts about giving things up for the org. They both have been pioneering since they got married. Theyeven said in confidence o me how badly they wanted to have kids but would have 12 in the new system.
He is fully gray-headed and honestly a nice brother. Anyway he gets to the door and there is a 30 something there with a 3 year old. He held the door for her and sat there playing with her daughter... Knowing what I know about him I feel so bad because I believe he honestly would be a good dad.
Dreams and happiness given up for this stupid org