BeautifulGarbage

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  OK, So I'm thinking about becoming a witness.

  by MarkAnthony in

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  i was raised roman catholic but stopped going about 25 years ago.

  i was talking with someone i work with who is a jw and suggested i might look into it.

  so here i am.............

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  MarkAnthony,

  If you want true information about Jehovah's Witnesses go to .... www.watchtower.org ...

  Uh, yeah, right.

  This is much better: www.freeminds.org. A MUST read before seriously considering any involvement with the JWs.
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  Why I am leaving JWD

  by logansrun in

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  i'm leaving this forum...at least temporarily.

  as i mentioned in conversation over dinner at the chicago apostafest, my upcoming school schedule (which begins next week) combined with my workload will make it very difficult to be an active member on this forum.

  perhaps i'll check in occassionaly when life is a little slower but for now i'd better distance myself from the on-line scene or else the other elements in my life will suffer.

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  and it behooves us to look for it.

  ugh! I certainly am not going to invest my time in actually LOOKING for the "good" in the WTS. Are you kidding me? It's just going to have to find ME.

  And uh, no thanks, I get my behooving somewhere else.

  Reminds me of a saying "Youth is wasted on the young".

  However, I do wish you well in your future endeavors.
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  Positive Islamic Thread

  by eyeslice in

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  there has been a bit of stick about the negative comments about islam on this board, so i thought i would start a positive thread.. towards the end of the 90s, i lived for a year in an asian country with a population of over 100 million muslims.

  all muslims i came across were honest, decent people.. a couple of years back, i went to work in iran for a couple of weeks.

  as a result i had a couple days off at the weekend, which also happened to coincide with a public holiday.

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  Where is this stated in this great big book of official Islam rules?

  Actually, it's called the Sharia, or Islamic law.

  Yes, some countries, and cultures, follow this more closely than others.

  Here's a beef I have with the Sharia. It does COMMAND for female circumcision mutilation. And yes, I'm POINTING my finger at it.

  For those males that don't have a problem with Islam, if the Sharia called for lopping off the last inch of your DICK I'm certain the practicing of islam would have been abolished centuries ago.

  So much for positive.
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  Reggie White died :(

  by xenawarrior in

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  dead at the age of 43. a sad day indeed.

  i had the pleasure of working with reggie and his wife sara on several community projects when they lived in green bay and he was an awesome human being.

  huntersville, n.c. dec 26, 2004 ?

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  I'm sorry he died. Yes, a fantastic football player.

  However, I witnessed his ignorance, and hatred, for homosexuals one night when channel surfing on Christian TV. Apparently, he had made some controversal comments regarding gays. I watched, and listened, as he, and his wife, justified their stance and would not be "pressured by the sodomites" to change it.
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  My parents rejected my invitation - because of the tree

  by GermanXJW in

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  yesterday was a special day for my family and me: we bought our first x-mas tree.

  the kids are very enthusiastic about it.

  and i was happy providing them with something i did not have as a kid.

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  What is it about the tree?!

  It suppose it a powerful symbol of being completely assimilated into the evils of "The World".

  My Dad hadn't gone to meetings for years, and had even been "celebrating" xmas for a number of years (gift exchange in holiday wrap) he would NOT allow us a tree. I remember having to explain to my friends why presents were just stacked in the corner of the room. Still, I was fortunate to be allowed even that, having all those former non-present, non-feast, lonely days, on my mind, I didn't complain.

  Dad rationalized (like only HE could rationalize) that we weren't actually celebrating Xmas, but just happened to be exchanging gifts on the same day that most everyone else was . It was kinda a Xmas take on "turkey-was-on-sale-and-we-just-happened-to-eat-it-on-Thanksgiving type thing.

  I bought my first tree, myself, when I was 18.

  My JW zealot Grandmother would visit my Df'd, now worldly, Aunt's house on Xmas day. Of course, to JW relatives, it was "just like any other day". Granny would simply ignore the decorations and enjoy her time with family. Granny was SUCH a zealot, but she NEVER shunned and simply shutout what she didn't want to see. I think the elders left her alone because, otherwise, she was super JW pioneer with super JW pioneer children and grandchildren.

  As far as former JWs easing themselves into the holidays, just do what you are comfortable with.

  GermanJW, I'm sorry about your parents. Enjoy the holiday with your own family without them.
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  what else can I say?

  by jwbot in

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  i got an email from a girl i know who is either teaching or helping teach kindergarten.

  she had questions about a 5 year old boy who is going to homeschool next year, and is a jw.

  she remembered that i am an ex-jw so emailed me to ask for any information that would help her get in the mind of this boy (who seemed to want to celebrate xmas).

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  I just read that other thread. Some really good ideas. Especially giving alternative present and goodies, but making it clear that they are not "Christmas" presents. This allows the child to be included, but not cause problems with their family and in their own little minds.

  I would just keep my mouth shut during this time and keep any loot I got at school. Same with Valentines day. I would read those Valentines day cards for days. But, my parents were marginal JWs, that were on the fringes, so I didn't risk too much. And fanantic JW Grandma, that lived with us, was too preoccupied with either praying, or converting unsuspecting people into the cult.

  I have a girl friend that worked for an insurance company. Every year they gave a gift of money during the holidays. A Christmas Bonus. Well, there were a few JW employees that put up a fuss, so the name was changed to Year End Bonus to make them happy.
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  what else can I say?

  by jwbot in

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  i got an email from a girl i know who is either teaching or helping teach kindergarten.

  she had questions about a 5 year old boy who is going to homeschool next year, and is a jw.

  she remembered that i am an ex-jw so emailed me to ask for any information that would help her get in the mind of this boy (who seemed to want to celebrate xmas).

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  I think you did just fine.

  It's a difficult situation children are put in. Especially when they are that young. I think that she should just let the kid's cues lead the way.

  I work at an elementary school and we have several JW children. I remember one six year old declaring to his class "birthdays are bad"! when a Mom had brought cupcakes for all the kids for one of his classmates. Some of the kids were a bit taken back by his comment, and I stepped in and calmly said "My experience is that they are not bad and I never heard of anyone getting being harmed by a chocolate cupcake".

  Something also interesting happen this week with one JW student who is age 9. I know he is a JW because he has tried to give me literature. Anyway, I see this boy walking around with a Santa hat, and his jacket stuffed with his packback to make it look like he has a big belly, bellowing "ho ho ho" walking around the campus. I kept my mouth shut, but when I saw him later, doing the same thing, I couldn't resist making a comment. I said, "R* I thought you were a Jehovah's Witness". He answers, "Oh man! I just wanted to have some fun"! So, I leaned down to him and whispered "Your secret is safe with me" and off he went skipping and ho ho hoing. I remember vividly being a kid and wanting in on the fun too. I just hope he isn't filled with guilt later.

  This time of years sucks for JW kids.
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  Body Image and Little Girls

  by Princess in

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  i thought it would be around 12-13 years old.

  this from a child who has heard how beautiful she is from strangers every day of her life.. who knew how cutthroat and competitive kindergarten girls are?

  a thousand strangers calling her beautiful just can't compete with one five/six year old telling her she is fat and has ugly hair.

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  Yeah, well, six, like I said, you wouldn't know.
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  Body Image and Little Girls

  by Princess in

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  i thought it would be around 12-13 years old.

  this from a child who has heard how beautiful she is from strangers every day of her life.. who knew how cutthroat and competitive kindergarten girls are?

  a thousand strangers calling her beautiful just can't compete with one five/six year old telling her she is fat and has ugly hair.

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  (sorry my cut and paste just will not, well, cut and paste, so I'm responding to sixofnine's response to my last post on this thead)

  Just say it, Six. Horse shit.

  There you go, that's a good boy!

  Not only do I believe it, I lived it. And so did many, many, other young women that I have crossed paths with during my time on this planet. And, as subsequent posts have attested to, I know of what I say.

  Teejay,

  You may consider my statement hyperbole, and it may very well be, but I certainly don't think so. I know you adore your daughter, and that is a very good thing. I hope she comes through adolescence with few dings in her psychological armor. And she will need armor. You can bet the farm on that.

  See, boys, the thing about this is that I have been the one thing you guys have never been, and will never be, a young, and subsequent, teenage girl.

  It's kinda like explaining whats it's like being a XJW to someone that is worldly, you had to have been there.
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  Body Image and Little Girls

  by Princess in

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  i thought it would be around 12-13 years old.

  this from a child who has heard how beautiful she is from strangers every day of her life.. who knew how cutthroat and competitive kindergarten girls are?

  a thousand strangers calling her beautiful just can't compete with one five/six year old telling her she is fat and has ugly hair.

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  What a great society. Maybe turning the TV off would be a good step

  . Missed this one. (Must have been when I turned my back to watch the TV) The fact is western culture mostly basis a female's value on the way she looks. That includes Britain. You guys are not immune. Careful, Simon, I understand that nosebleeds on common when one sits a top such a tall horse And, yes, a loving supportive family can be important when a little girl is developing her self image. However, her peers are a thousand times more powerful and one negative comment can erase a thousand compliments from family.