Posts by BeautifulGarbage

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Those Wacky Witnesses !!!

by thinker in

the bills he didnt pay or tell me he didnt.

almost 55 years old.

he didnt pay for 4 months and i got a forclosure letter.

There is just so much sadness in these emails and to make a few comments is very difficult. It's so very tragic. Had the letter just been written, perhaps this all could have been avoided. But, notice how after everything, in the end, her plea do your wife:

My honest prayer is that I would love to see you back in Jehovahs arms and service again.

We both just have to get ourselves into the new system

So, Jehovah expects her to stay married to a abusing creep. To do otherwise, would mean she's toast. Seems to me that Jehovah's arms have no room for HER.

And the new system! Seems even the most deplorable situations can be endured when one expects paradise at any moment. Remove that, and it's all for nothing.

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Quote from the WT, i.e. Yoga. Opinions?

by unique1 in

"so once again we ask: 'can yoga be practiced simply as a physical exercise to develop a healthy body and a relaxed mind, without any involvement with religion?

' in view of its background, the answer would have to be no.

ok, i know yoga comes from a religious background, but i have been taking a yoga class for several months, and if there was any thing religious i would have stopped the class, but there is nothing.

BeautifulGarbage

I'm in a religious limbo at the moment, and certainly not searching for anything. But, I have to admit that from what I've seen about yoga, it could lead into a spiritual, as well as physical, practice. It's no coincidence that a local yoga studio is called "The Yoga Way".

Oh good grief!

The choice is yours to make. If the studio you go to is too "spiritual", then find somewhere else to take your classes. You don't have to be "lead" if don't want to. There are various types of yoga. Some focus on the spiritual, some don't.

I love doing yoga (The easy kind, not the Madonna kind, which is killer by the way).
Physically strengthing and mentally calming at the same time.

Andee

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Dub Fads

by In_between_days in

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when you were a jw, did you witness a rather large enthusiasm from your congregation for passing fads?

what i mean is, one dub would start something and everyone would join in?

this was especially prevelant with the women of the congregations.. for instance, for a while every female dub was undertaking this strange diet where they basically drink this really odd and particularly disturbing looking mushroom that they kept in their fridge.

BeautifulGarbage

For some reason they find it very easy to try and peddle a product nobody wants and convince others to sell it too.

For some reason?! LOL

I wonder why?

They get tons of practice. It's called Field Service.

Andee

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JW Parents refuse to have 8yr old back after transfusion

by ISP in

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25 jan 1996 : column 1162to the noble baroness, lady faithfull, if this was a matter with which she had to deal.

i do so because it actually happened in oxford.

the child of two jehovah's witnesses aged eight was knocked down, severely injured and was bleeding to death.

BeautifulGarbage

I don't have a problem believing this story. Though, it is behavior that is not just characteristic of JW's.

Back in the 1990's, in Fresno, CA, a set of Hmong parents were taken to court because they refused to allow their little boy to have surgery to correct his club foot.

Their reason?

Because they believed that this boy was born with a club foot to atone for sins of their ancestors. If they were to have it corrected, that would leave the family vulnerable to possibly even more wrathful retaliation, according to their religious beliefs.

So, back and forth the court battle went. With the family being very adamant that the surgery was not to take place. Waiting until the boy was older, or an adult, was not an option because the surgery needed to be done while he was still a small child.

The family shaman offered that the surgery could be performed. However, he would have to perform a ceremony "live" in the courtroom with the judge present. One of the things that would have to be done during this ceremony would be the sacrifice of a live chicken. That didn't go over very well with the judge. No chicken killing that day.

In the end, the boy didn't have the surgery. The reason being that the family would have rejected him and he would have been an outcast in his clan. The judge felt that his family, and their care, was more important than being able to walk normally.

Granted, this boy's situation wasn't life threatening. But, it shows just how hard people will cling to a religious belief, even if it means the life-long suffering, or death, of their child.

Andee

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My Dreams Have Been Indefinitely Postponed

by StinkyPantz in

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i woke up to a banging on my door and much to my surprise, it was a police officer.

he proceeded to tell me that my car was damaged.

i was thinking, "great, someone must've busted out a window or slashed my tires.

BeautifulGarbage

Ok, I will state right up front I don't know what I am talking about in your situation. I'm just offering another viewpoint.

You have a leanholder on this car? I thought that the insurance company HAS to payoff the car regardless of it's worth. Any money that is gotten will go straight to them anyway.

Or, if I am wrong in this respect, does there have a be a special clause in the insurance policy that specially states they have to pay what is owed on the car?

I'm sorry about what happened, Stinky. I was in a car accident two years ago. I was not at fault. Me and the other guy had the same insurance company. I ended up getting screwed out of about 15, 000 dollars because I was mislead in how the underinsured clause in my policy worked and California law. What was upsetting is that the whole time the insurance company KNEW they were never going to have to pay me what was fair and made me wait a year for a settlement. Bastards.

I know you are devastated right now. Hang in there, girl.

Andee

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What parents need to know...

by SheilaM in

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today on montel he is discussing a subject i just did a speech on yesterday.

it's about the medication of children for adhd.

1. that ritalin is a class ii drug and is on the same as cocaine.

BeautifulGarbage

I think the moral of this thread is to be an expert on your child and be an expert on whatever disorder they are being diagnosed/misdiagnosed with. Do your research and know the sources and whether, or not, they have an agenda. Do not be intimidated by "experts" and school officials. End the end, you and your child are going to have the live with the decisions that are going to be made.

Both of my children had the ADHD label batted around them. Especially my daughter. She was speech and developmentally delayed. I got every book that I could find on the subject. What I found interesting is how the bar as being lowered over the years as to what exactly constitutes ADHD. My daughter was tested by three different people. Two concluded no ADHD, and the other did. I took all of the information and made decisions that I thought were in the best interests of my duaghter.

My son was also hyperactive with a speech and language delay. ADHD was whispered around him. I would hear none of it. Because that label gets stuck to them like super glue through out their school years. There is a lowered expectation of behavior and academics. School has been OK for him. He does have gross and fine motor skill challenges, like my daughter did. He becomes frustrated when he struggles doing things that other kids do with ease. Still, academically he is doing just fine with no hyperactivity at school. But, if his behavior and concentration were to become an issue, I would consider medication to help him if behavior modification wasn't doing enough.

What I do know is that I have two very sensitive and intense children. Home life can be very interesting at my house sometimes. This determines how I interact with, give praise, and discipline, them.

To quote Bill Cosby: "I just wanted some children to send to college". (sigh)

Andee

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Ever have an affair????????????????

by jurs in

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i've been married 14 long years to a real s.o.b.

and i think i might just take that plunge.

i was having a drink at a bar last week with a gal i work with.

BeautifulGarbage

I'm completely blown away, and deeply touched, by the heartfelt honesty of this thread.

Jurs,

I will not comment on the affair aspect of your post. I have not had an affair, and my marriage is happy.

Seems to me that you absolutely want to leave your husband, but that money is the issue that keeps you there. So, I have a question for you. Have you ever lived on your own? I mean, completely? That means you picked the place and paid all of the bills. The reasons I asked this that though "money" can appear to the issue, it sometimes can be the prospect of living alone and being completely responsible for one's own life that is the real reason. It can be so damn frightening. Yet, after the initial fear, the feeling of accomplishment and freedom is exhilarating. The fear in taking that first step is overwhelming, but millions of women have done it, and have been successful.

After 22 years of a miserable, disastrous marriage, my Mother decided to divorce my Dad. Money was the primary reason she stayed all those years. Plus, she had never been on her own. She married my Dad at 14 (Yes, at the KH). I know she was terribly afraid of the possibility of alone, penniless, and being on the streets. Dad was a spendthrift and they owed tons of money and had no assets. It was really tough, financially, those first few years, especially with two kids, but I know she would never have traded them with being back with my Dad. She had freedom for the first time in her life. That was over twenty years ago and she is remarried and very happy.

Plus, how are your children coping all of this? Is there a lot of stress and trauma that goes on in your house? This can really be difficult for kids. I know, it took me and my siblings years to come to terms with the damage that was done to us. Though, your leaving will be stressful too. In the end, which one would be better for your kids?

I would leave the married man alone. Living separate lives is also an option. Just as long as hubby understands you will be dating. Still, is that something you want to explain to your children?

Take care and best wishes,

Andee

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Teen puts a frog in a potato gun. Frog exacts revenge.

by Yizuman in

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posted on wed, apr.

'toy gun' mishap blinds teen .

by peyton d. woodson

BeautifulGarbage

I detest deliberate cruelty to animals, especially when an individual decides it's a form of entertainment. What happened to the kid was harsh and it's a shame. Hopefully, others will take heed of his fate. Still, I have no problem biting into a nice big juicy In N Out burger.

I think it's ok to eat animals, as long as you use the entire animal. I have no problem wearing leather, but fur is another matter, as the entire animal is not being used.

I never quite understood the logic behind opinions like this. It's makes me think of a Sitcom I watch about 15 years ago. One of the female characters was going to model a fur coat in a fashion show. This character's sister expressed disgust at the notion that she was going to wear FUR. So, when the character explained that the sister that she, herself, had no problem wearing leather and eating beef, the sister explained it was because they used other parts of the animal and didn't just kill it for the skin. To this the female character replied to her sister "So, if I sat down to a big ole mink steak, you wouldn't have any problem with the coat"?

To me, the animal dies regardless. Do I want to see it suffer unnecessarily? No, of course not. But, once it's dead, it's dead. The animal doesn't suffer any more, or less, because we don't use the total of their parts.

So, is it the vanity that bothers people? (in the case of fur) The wastefulness? If we all start eating mink, fur will be okay to wear? (Just thinking out loud). Because dogs like to chew on pig's ears and cow hooves it's ok to kill them? What if we just threw those parts away? At what point does it become okay to kill animals?

I know to some people it's not okay to eat, or kill, animals regardless of the reasons. That is much easier to me to understand. A clear line has been drawn. For others, it's much murkier.

Andee

Plucked the feathers off headless chickens class

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[SYN] is Irish!!!

by SYN in

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this weekend a close relative got married, so i went along to the service, chafing at the bit the whole time i was in the church (dutch reformed, if it makes any difference).

as usual, i could feel myself getting subliminally drawn into what the pastor was talking about, although you could say i disagreed with him on some fundamental points, but yours truly kept quiet as he was sitting next to his grandfather .

personally i always thought i was 100% dutch.

BeautifulGarbage

*Raises hand*

Another 50 percenter here. Dad's side. Irish, the whole lot of them. Also, I'm 25 percent Russian (though German speaking) and 25 percent German. Three reasons to get drunk!

The people who make out that Ireland is awash with redheads have clearly never been to Ireland - a more typical Irish look would be much darker hair, often black.

My Dad has black hair with hazel eyes. Though, his two younger brothers are redheads.

Andee

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Can You Believe it's Been 10 Years Since the Waco Seige?

by Robdar in

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on april 19th it will be the 10th anniversary of waco.

koresh is still dead, which surprises his former followers; the few who survived the seige.

ah, well, time flies.

BeautifulGarbage

Mac wrote:

Ro

Ummm

your boat?

Andee