I wouldn't because then I'd be just as damaging to the spirit of this awesome board.
Also because I know I'd always lose in a battle of slams and comebacks...ala Georg Costanza and his "well the Jerk Store called" comeback flop.
I wouldn't because then I'd be just as damaging to the spirit of this awesome board.
Also because I know I'd always lose in a battle of slams and comebacks...ala Georg Costanza and his "well the Jerk Store called" comeback flop.
that's what my wife thinks anyway.
all i had to do was get that foot in the door.
once it was in it all just rushed through.
WELCOME TO THE BOARD MRS. KWIN...and I'm so happy you're learning all the facts about the Organization and its dishonesty.
KWIN ...Great news man!!!! Wishing you and you spouse even more shared freedoms!
)o.k so last night i made a vow of celibacy to god.
an official promise in prayer to not fornicate so that maybe i too can have a special wedding night.
(my boyfriend was surprisingly supportive) i remember reading a scripture that says a promise made to god should be taken very serious.
Tresbella,
We're all going to be expressing our particular opinions, and sometimes a few will be diametrically oppossed. I wouldn't personally take others comments as insinuating you were a religious prude. They're expressing their own viewpoints and I believe they are doing it to help you....to help foster a mindset where you refelct on and re-examine your own beliefs and standards. I believe they wanted to get across the idea of "don't do it just because OTHERS told you its so."
Peace
P.S. As to how to control them nasty urges...I can send you a picture of myself in a bathing suit if you'd like...9 out of 10 struggling nymphomaniacs recommend it.
i,m going to cut to the chase here .i am not long viewing this website and am fascinated at much of what i have read.currently i attend meetings, but sit there and think of what i now know about the society and its past.i just feel so confused at the moment with religion.. its a bit like who shot jfk ,did man really land on the moon etc .. except it involves all of us( just wish i knew the truth).
the only thing that is keeping me there right now is that all my family are in the "truth" ,,and i cant just stay at home and be shunned which i have recently experienced ( was inactive for a while) .. if i knew beyond any shadow of a doubt that i have found the true faith and discern that it is definately the true faith, i would then make a stand and nothing would stop me .
already i am reading the scriptures without the aid of wt publications and what i am reading is amazing .i am starting to feel that i am now getting closer to god by simply doing this coupled with prayer.. there must be one true faith as there was in the first century.
Hi Evergreen,
Like several people mentioned already, you're starting off on an exciting journey. You're leaving the road that leads to nowhere, and you're going down the road that leads to --- ???????? ----
Is there ONE true faith to be found? I don't know. I agree with a lot of people that say the Golden Rule and loving others as yourself are probably the closest ideas to universal truths. With questions though, I have been able to find out a bit more about myself. Where my "spirituality" needs to grow or change. Like a very fine point made by Corvin. No other person should control or try to influence your personal interactions with the divine.
As to how things were in the first century, I believe you'll find a book by Bart D. Ehrman interesting. Its called:
Lost Christianities: The Battle for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew
in the french's version of awake april 22, 2004, there is an article called " who has written the pentateuch ?".
here is my comments concerning this article in french:.
http://site.voila.fr/tjquestions/pentateuque.html .
And thanks to all of you, Leo, Nark, and Ross for your critiques of the article.
i called and reported the abuse of a 17 year old elders son to cps yesterday: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/79588/1.ashx.
he was a good friend of my daughters when they were still living at their mom and stepdads and were made to attend meetings.. today, i went to c's school accompanied by nancy and elese.
i met with one of the vp's, a really wonderful lady, who was also very concerned and was determined to help.
The insulating tactic works all too well. Is it possible for C to take a co-op course in his highschool? That would at least offer C the experience of non-dub contact. Maybe he could sell it to his parents as a way to try out a different line of work and still get school credits for it. Or would the father probably be set against that as well?
in the french's version of awake april 22, 2004, there is an article called " who has written the pentateuch ?".
here is my comments concerning this article in french:.
http://site.voila.fr/tjquestions/pentateuque.html .
If I'm not mistaken, one will find the material in the english April 8th 2004 edition of Awake pg.8-9.
I don't have a scanner so I typed it all in below ---- Its not fun being a channel for the WT
Who Wrote the "Books of Moses"?
Traditionally, Moses has been credited with being the author of the first five books of the Bible, called the Pentateuch. Moses may have drawn some of his information from earlier historical sources. Many critics believe, though, that Moses did not write the Pentateuch at all. "It is thus clearer than the sun at noonday that the Pentateuch was not written by Moses", asserted the 17th-century philosopher Spinoza. In the latter half of the 19th century, the German scholar Julius Wellhausen popularized the "documentary" theory - that the books of Moses are an amalgam of the works of several authors or teams of authors.
Wellhausen said that one author consistently used the personal name of God, Jehovah, and is thus called J. Another, dubbed E, called God "Elohim". Another, P, supposedly wrote the priestly code in Leviticus, and yet another, called D, wrote Deuteronomy. Though some scholars have embraced this theory for decades, the book The Pentateuch, by Joseph Blenkinsopp, calls Wellhausen's hypothesis a theory "in crisis".
The book Introduction to the Bible, by John Laux explains: "The Documentary Theory is built up on assertions which are either arbitrary or absolutely false....If the extreme Doumentary Theory were true, the Isrealites would have been the victims of a clumsy deception when they permitted the heavy burden of the Law to be imposed upon them. It would have been the greatest hoax ever perpetrated in the history of the world."
Another argument is that stylistic differences in the Pentateuch are evidence of multiple authors. However, K.A. Kitchen notes in his book Ancient Orient and Old Testament: "Stylistic differences are meaningless, and reflect the differences in detailed subject-matter." Similar style variations can also be found "in ancient texts whose literary unity is beyond doubt."
The argument that the use of different names and titles for God is evidence of multiple authorship is particularly weak. In just one small portion of the book of Genesis, God is called "the Most High God", "Producer of heaven and earth", "Sovereign Lord Jehovah", "God of sight", "God Almighty", "God", "the true God", and "the Judge of all the earth." ( Genesis 14:18,19; 15:2; 16:13; 17:1,3,18; 18:25 ) Did different authors write each of these Bible texts? Or what about Genesis 28:13, where the terms "Elohim" (God) and "Jehovah" are used together? Did two authors collaborate to write that one verse?
The weakness of this line of reasoning becomes particularly evident when applied to a contemporary piece of writing. In one recent book about World War II, the chancellor of Germany is termed "Fuhrer", "Adolf Hitler", and simply "Hitler" in the course of just a few pages. Would anyone claim that this is evidence of three different authors?
Nevertheless, variations on Wellhausen's theories continue to proliferate. Among them is the theory propounded by two scholars regarding the so-called J author. They not only deny that it was Moses but also proclaim that "J was a woman".
i called and reported the abuse of a 17 year old elders son to cps yesterday: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/79588/1.ashx.
he was a good friend of my daughters when they were still living at their mom and stepdads and were made to attend meetings.. today, i went to c's school accompanied by nancy and elese.
i met with one of the vp's, a really wonderful lady, who was also very concerned and was determined to help.
Corvin,
I really empathize with "C". KUDOS to you for making CPS and, as Scully advised, the school counsellor, aware of C's terrible agony. KUDOS to Nancy for stepping up to the plate with all that she's recently dealt with. She will definitely help him to experience a supportive relationship for a change. That from my personal experience, is a powerful healing agent to someone who's been battered emotionally and psychologically onto a self-destructive course. I'm glad someone stepped in before it did any more long term damage to his psyche.
this book is one of the best book i've ever read.
it describe well the technics that the watchtower use to manipulate their jehovah's witness.
I did at age 16. It was an especially interesting read for me because I first read the book "The Orwellian World of Jehovah's Witnesses". That got me interested in reading the novel.
well, first of all i never buy *new* cars... so when i say "new - used" i basically mean: sell my current car and buy another used one that is about two years old.
my current car is a 1999 ford contour se v6 with about 106,000 miles on it.
it's got a few minor bumps-and-bruses and a bit of peeling paint due to a bad paint-job, but it does look good when you step back and look at it as a whole.
All I can say is if I were in a position where I could get financing for a new car I would. Otherwise unless you or a friend who really knows their cars can help you, buying used is a crapshoot.
I've always been limited to used ones. With one particularly bad used car I had, the purchase price + the total cost of repairs over the 3 years, came out to nearly the same amount it would have costed me to lease a new corolla. Others weren't as draining but were just as frustrating with inopportune break downs.
When ever a car repair nears or surpasses the trade in value its time to scrap it, as I'm sure you know. Recently my sib had to decide what to do with her car with tranny trouble. Even from a scrap yard, that used tranny will cost you about 2/3 of that trade in value you gave. Rebuilt will definitely come close to that if not more. So I'd trade in it now.
[ edited to remove alot of unnecessary detail - maybe I should have did it to the whole post? ;) ]