Midget-Sasquatch

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  How to Debate an Evolutionist (if you must)

  by hooberus in

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  this thread is primarily directed to biblical creationists and other non-evolutionists here (as such no or limited responses will be given to evolutionist posts here).

  please if you are a non-evolutionist attempt to refrain from debating evolutionists here on this thread, as they will likely try to derail any learning, or exposure of their tactics.

  i will try to avoid debating here but instead posting information in a series of posts.. i consider myself to be an informed biblical creationist and probably one of more experienced creation/evolution issue debaters to have been on this forum.

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  How to Debate an Evolutionist?

  I'd say the best way is to use current data, and consider the entire body of evidence.Using appeals of authority to statements made by scientists and texts from a few decades back or positions that are selectively "evidence based" isn't entirely persuasive.

  Evolution (what is being debated) is essentiallly a naturalistic version of history

  This definition should be brought out early. Since it is in a sense a reasonable statement it should be easy to get people to agree to what its saying....then build from there to try and contrast history and science....ergo evolution is not scientific. Of course the definition must be broad and not minimalist (i.e. changes in allele frequencies) so that any uncertainty in some fields of research like abiogenesis can be harped upon to try and discredit the whole concept.

  Do you see why its important to be insistent on certain definitions? Otherwise the whole house of cards topples. Great debaters aren't necessarily more accurate than others..just more adept at trying to make the other side's argument appear weakly based.
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  News item downunder - Has Bigfoot been found?

  by ozziepost in

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  this is showing as headline news downunder, don't know why, but how about it, you merry cans?.

  is it newsworthy?.

  has bigfoot been found?august 14, 2008, 10:34 pm.

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  I didn't expect much and their conference only confirmed it. They didn't role out any body at the conference. The best test result they could produce was inconclusive DNA results that point to possible human and possum DNA.

  Then there are inconsistencies in their early stories and what they said at the conference. Like the intestines burst from decomposition while they were transporting and storing it. But now they found it already that way.

  And they're going to charge people to see more pictures on their website.
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  : )

  by Narkissos in

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  2. friends

  this may not be my last post on jwd but i feel the time has come for some kind of "goodbye thread" nonetheless.. i first ventured on (french-speaking) xjw forums in 2003, when my own jw past was already old history and practically meaningless to any of my acquaintances in so-called "real life".

  looking back, beyond mere curiosity i certainly felt the need to revisit this almost-forgotten chapter of my life story.

  what especially drew me to jwd and made me stick to it for the past five years was undoubtedly the extraordinary diversity of this board, and the wealth of experience, information and reflection it offered.

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  Didier,

  I used to lurk on a few ex-jw forums like H2O but I quickly lost interest in each of them in turn. I enjoy fluff every now and then, but what I was also grateful to have here at JWD, were your thought provoking threads. I can't say I'm a religious animal, and far from enlightened but I looked forward to your posts. A great depth of introspection and range on topics which I loved to read because of what they showed about the human condition.

  I think what I've really learned from posters like yourself Didier is summed up by something said by Mary McArthy

  I suppose everyone continues to be interested in the quest for the self, but what you feel when you're older, I think, is that. . . you really must make the self.

  Ahh those wonderful dots within quotes. As you can see, I still have a ways to go in losing my WT self.
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  Huge Explosion in Toronto

  by Nosferatu in

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  i'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet: .

  http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=8ef01ab5-9b21-4027-868b-efa6ea63fdc4 .

  picture here: .

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  Is Uzzah still working at emergency responses/the Red Cross? I definitely feel for anyone who has to deal with this sitch today.
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  TELL US 3 THINGS ABOUT YOURSELF; ONE THEM A LIE

  by Terry in

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  there is a training program in the c.i.a.

  and f.b.i.. you tell an interrogator 3 things about yourself.

  one them has to be a lie.. if they can tell which statement is the lie, you flunk.. .

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  SweetStuff

  I'm going to try and hopefully avoid another strike tonight :)

  I'll guess #2 .......cuz you're already published.
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  TELL US 3 THINGS ABOUT YOURSELF; ONE THEM A LIE

  by Terry in

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  there is a training program in the c.i.a.

  and f.b.i.. you tell an interrogator 3 things about yourself.

  one them has to be a lie.. if they can tell which statement is the lie, you flunk.. .

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  StAnn

  Anyway, I've always been extremely volatile and excitable and spontaneous. Anyone who knows me would crack up at the thought of me being even-tempered, guess that was a lame answer.

  Good thing then I erred on the side of caution and not ticking you off by pegging you a hot head?
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  TELL US 3 THINGS ABOUT YOURSELF; ONE THEM A LIE

  by Terry in

  1. jw
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  there is a training program in the c.i.a.

  and f.b.i.. you tell an interrogator 3 things about yourself.

  one them has to be a lie.. if they can tell which statement is the lie, you flunk.. .

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  St.Ann

  I'm going to guess you don't have 3 children. Kinda hard to be even tempered if ya did.

  If you were of the same Mediterranian descent as myself I would have said you were fibbing about being even tempered.
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  TELL US 3 THINGS ABOUT YOURSELF; ONE THEM A LIE

  by Terry in

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  there is a training program in the c.i.a.

  and f.b.i.. you tell an interrogator 3 things about yourself.

  one them has to be a lie.. if they can tell which statement is the lie, you flunk.. .

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  Midget-Sasquatch

  1) I have never tried any illegal drugs.

  2) I have two degrees: Bachelor of Science (4 yr) and Bachelor of Education (1 yr program)

  3) I'm quite clean, that is I naturally have very little body hair on my chest and back.
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  Do Paul's Letters Really Count?

  by almostbitten in

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  if there is anyone here with some heavy bible knowledge, i would like to throw this nugget up in the air.

  in 2 timothy 3:16, paul reminds us that "all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial for teaching...." nwt (because that was the version that was sitting nearby).

  my question is: did paul consider the personal letters he wrote to the various churches and to timothy, titus, and philemon as scripture?

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  I can side with either journey-on or hillary step here.

  We really only have Paul's say so that he was flogged and suffered while evangelizing and later Church tradition. Acts ends with his being in house arrest. Gee that must be real harsh punishment in comparison to what the Romans could have dished out. Which kinda fits in with one line of speculation that Paul was actually a Herodian (Herodians could rightfully have Roman citizenship as I understand it) and so out of self interest sided with Rome against the zealots who were out to overthrow the status quo. Notice how Paul was always about the status quo regarding slaves and masters and payin taxes to Da Man. Maybe he was co-opted as an agent by Rome to attenuate the messianic/ jewish nationalistic movement festering in Palestine...of which a prominent figure was James the Just...Jewish Christians didn't seem to take a liking to Paul. So his house arrest conveniently protected him from extreme Jewish nationalists and he could use the "incarceration" to further his image as suffering for the Way.

  Or he was just plain looney with all the "revelations" he was getting from on high and managed to successfully propogate his unique combination of Jewish and gentile religious ideas to Jews in the Diaspora...Jews who were already more likely to adopt allegorical interpretations of the OT.
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  Taking a Cue From Ants on Evolution of Morality and Religion

  by hamilcarr in

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  beyond dawkins' selfish gene .... how multi-level selection might unravel the origins of moral behavior and religion .... .

  taking a cue from ants on evolution of humans.

  by nicholas wadeto reach edward o. wilsons office on the harvard campus, one must first push through a door with a sign warning the public not to enter.

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  Midget-Sasquatch

  That info from new scientist makes a pretty strong case for the neodarwinian view. Was kin selection a large part of our own evolution of ethics and morality? I guess if you're going to take the stance of alot of evoutionary psychologists on "love" then yes it was. And of course, all inherited traits are gene based.

  Anything that affects the population is going to touch the individual. Its just that it may not touch each individual the same way. I'm not saying this is a valid example but you all know about the recessive allele for sickle cell anemia. Having a certain frequency of it in the population may not be so great for the homozygotes, but it ensures a large portion of heterozygous individuals who are more resistant to malaria. There selection is definitely on the individual level.