Gorgeous Baby Kep....well done. And I love the name...sounds like Jahovah and Ezekiel
Congratulations to you and family for such a beautiful new edition.
Beck
ps...slap on the back and a well done from me....must be my shout!!!
Here's to ya!!
Gorgeous Baby Kep....well done. And I love the name...sounds like Jahovah and Ezekiel
Congratulations to you and family for such a beautiful new edition.
Beck
ps...slap on the back and a well done from me....must be my shout!!!
Here's to ya!!
http://www.canada.com/ottawa/story.asp?id={54ea3ea1-1889-46cb-acfd-22cc0b0b79fd}.
teen found guilty in abbotsford bullying that led to suicide.
canadian press .
Thank you so much for that info Skully...I am very grateful for everyone's kind words, and for your prayers also Vi. I am soaking up suicide information like a sponge right now...I can't get enough. I am trying to establish some kind of rationale as you say, as I know my brother in law is going to want to talk about things at some stage. Hopefully what I can find...will help him (all of us) to deal with what has happened.
Thanks again...I appreciate everyones thoughts.
Beck
i have come across an interesting type of non-jw.
they believe most, if not all of the teachings of the wts, but are no longer officially recognized as a member.. they believe, as the wts believes, that the world is evil and will be destroyed.
at the same time they are not welcome in the organization for one reason of another.. so there they are, hating the world and steaming about the organization - "caught between a rock and a hard place" - usually full of anger with no way to vent.. .
Hi Elsewhere
Faith without works is dead...thats what I was taught. Hardly seems worthwhile sharing the same faith if you're not doing the same works. Yet at the same time I can understand why they don't want to be completely 'out'. They believe...they just don't want to do the works...some people just can't keep up with 5 meetings a week, FS every weekend...meeting preparation...days text every day...bible reading every day..blah blah blah. And so...they believe...they just don't practice it.
Very common...especially with some couples where one spouse is active and one is not.
Beck
http://www.canada.com/ottawa/story.asp?id={54ea3ea1-1889-46cb-acfd-22cc0b0b79fd}.
teen found guilty in abbotsford bullying that led to suicide.
canadian press .
It is such a difficult situation...I had a belief and I had a faith when I was a JW...it was all so simple to me. Now...I don't know what to say..and I don't know what to believe.
Kris' girlfriend said she could feel him near her...she could feel him touching her shoulder...if someone had said that when I was a JW...I would have thought 'ya nutta'. But we all have to find a way to comfort ourselves...and a way to deal with questions like 'is there life after death?' What a nightmare this week has been!!
Beck
http://www.canada.com/ottawa/story.asp?id={54ea3ea1-1889-46cb-acfd-22cc0b0b79fd}.
teen found guilty in abbotsford bullying that led to suicide.
canadian press .
Scully...Everyone
Just on the topic of suicide...we had a family tragedy which only happened on Sunday night. My partner Andy's nephew committed suicide on Sunday afternoon...he was only 26 yrs old. We got the call at 2am Monday morning...and we have been walking around in a daze ever since. No one can eat, sleep or function properly. The funeral will be on Thursday...it is in today's Herald Sun by the way...his name was Kristian.
I appeal to you, what do I say to the family?? Kris' parents are devastated...and there has been a lot of blaming and finger pointing. I imagine this must be typical after a suicide...who to blame!
He had a history of breaking up with his girlfriend many times...and he had threaten to kill himself more than once...and he even showed his girlfriend the paddock and the tree where he would do it. 12 months ago Andy and his brother rescued him from a suicide attempt...however that one was over a break up with the previous girlfriend. When he met this new girl..we all thought he would be okay for a while. How wrong we were.
Sorry to burden this on you and to interrupt your thread Skully...but it kinda relates to the theme. I have thought about what pushes a person to do this destructive act...is it to escape??? Or is it to punish??? I think with Kris it was a combination of both...he wanted to end his suffering...as he suffered terribly whenever he felt like he was a failure....or whenever he had relationship problems. He also wanted to punish whenever he wanted to hurt someone...in this case...his girlfriend. Sadly....he has hurt his mother, father, brother, sister and other family members in his vindictive attempt to hurt someone else.
I am angry at his choice...I lack understanding I guess. I cry for his mother...who found his body and who struggled to get the rope down from the tree until her hands bled...I cry for her efforts to try and warm up his cold body. I cry for his dad who is losing control of his bowels and who can't stand up with this overwhelming grief. I cry for his sister who used to scold him for being such a drama queen...and for his attention seeking antics...I cry for her as she weeps with regret and is suffering so much....I cry for his brother who feels betrayed for not being given the chance to help or to lighten his little brother's burdens. I cry for all those who have suffered a loss this way.
But I am at a loss..what do I say to the parents and family?? My heart aches for them and I hate to see their pain...when I was a JW it was easy...I would share a few selected scriptures and would emphasise the new system.
Now what do I say?? Help!
Beck
do jehovah's witnesses practice magic?.
i think this is a question most people will see and go, "what is he talking about?
" the thing is when scientist have studied cultures and seen how their shaman have practiced magic, they have found that in many ways the men have used forms of meditation and prayer that relate close to the christian prayer form.
[email protected] and scratchy
Good point btw Kenpo...a staff into a snake...water from a rock...the 10 plagues of Egypt...walking on water etc etc...was that not magic of sorts??
When is it magic and when is it not in today's society??
Beck
Thanks TR...that's the bugga...I was looking for that earlier.
Beck
in high school, one friend of mine was offended by flowers for algernon because of the sex bits and refused to take it as part of the english curriculum.
he even gave an experience about it at a ca.
so those of us in the other english classes that year kinda had to refuse to do it too.
Hi Moxy
I wasn't allowed to go to school camps either...and my mother wasn't all that strict...some other strict parent set the precedent and we all had to follow or we would be regarded as 'weak'[>:(]
I wasn't allowed to go to religious instructions..obviously...or salute the flag...sing xmas carols or happy birthday in class...I wasn't allowed to go to school discos either. Whenever we had to present something to the class like show and tell, my mother used to make us use an Awake article or something along those lines....it was so humiliating...but I did it to gain her favour.
The things we did.
Beck
got a call late this afternoon: "your daughter was in a car accident along with four other girls.
you need to come to the emergency room.".
daughter not there yet.
AlanF
Sorry to hear your news...you must have had that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach while you were in the emergency room. Sorry to hear it will be a painful recovery time...but great to hear that she will bounce back again.
(((((AlanF's daughter))))) (((((AlanF)))))
Beck
what films and tv shows couldn't you watch when you were a witness kid?.
i remmember being banded from watching scooby doo, ghostbusters ,e.t., (some british ones)count duckula, rent a ghost, well basicly anything with ghosts in it.. my parents wouldn't watch any films with much swearing in them, especially the f-word.. which is fair enought.but i don't notice swearing so sometimes i recommend a film without realising its got lots of naughty words.. sometimes a very sensitive brother from the hall would come round to visit, and he would be visably shocked if there was any sex or swearing in a tv programme which often made it embarassing when watching tv when he was round.. once when we had some friends round and we got waynes world out on video, a couple of the brothers walked out as they thought it too worldly.
[email protected] was a lesbian...your mother just knew it...that is too funny.
I wasn't allowed to watch Knots Landing...I was counselled by the elders about it at one time. When I was married...I wasn't allowed to watch a lot of movies with adulterous themes like the Piano or the Bridges of Madison County. My kids weren't allowed to watch Casper the friendly ghost...or Beetlejuice, or any life after death kiddies movies.
The first thing I did when I left was curl up for a whole weekend catching up
Beck