Posts by kwintestal

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real one --- please provide proof here

by kwintestal in

sorry to saratonin wrath for his thread being hijacked.

real one ... please provide the evidence that you said was out there on this thread here to avoid further hijacking of the other thread.. insults towards non-believers are also better suited to this thread then the other one as well.. kwin.

kwintestal

poppers its just a very famous person who put his faith in Jesus

Yes, but in that time period many people who stated they didn't believe in him were killed. Do you want a list of famous people who don't believe?

Any evidence of this outside of the bible?

real one, about 60 years ago in a cave was found what's now called the "Dead Sea Scrolls". These scrolls were of immence importance to believers, especially Christians as they were written in the 300 BC to 100 AD time period. real one ... they were written WHILE JESUS (supposedly) WALKED THE EARTH!!! And they were untouched during that time. So, shouldn't there be something in them about Jesus? WHY ISN'T THERE?

One problem with the NT real one, is you cannot tell what parts of it have been doctored. You can't tell WHO wrote them. The church in the first few centuries had the power to do whatever it was they wanted. To add, delete or ammend, and destroy any evidence that it was changed. Remember, "He who controls the past, controls the future." That was so true in that day. But, as much as they tried, they couldn't delete all evidence. That is why you find writings like the "Gospel of Thomas." Have you read that gospel, real one? If so, I'd like to get your opinion on childhood Jesus' pranks. This is a person's testomony after all, but there is a very good reason it isn't part of the bible cannon.

I guess what I'm saying, real one ... is that if you want to prove Jesus to us, you have to give us proof OUTSIDE of the bible. Something independantly verifiable and trustworthy, not something with the great potential for amending that the bible has had over the years, and especially over the first few hundred years after it was written. This would be proof that scientists can't deny. YOU, real one, said it was available ... please provide it.

Kwin

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$80 million Lotto winner remains anonymous. JW perhaps?

by Open mind in

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here's an excerpt from a news article posted today:.

http://www.nbc11.com/news/15427504/detail.html.

the petaluma woman who won last week's super lotto plus jackpot isn't completely sure what she and her family will do with the $80 million prize.. "we dont want to get carried away, because were humble people, but im taking all my family out to dinner," said the woman, who chooses to remain anonymous.

kwintestal

A friend of the family won $15 million recently. They had friends come out of the woodwork. I'd want to be anonymous, but since I know someone who won, it won't happen to me.

Kwin

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ARE YOU PRO-UNION OR ANTI-UNION?

by Mary in

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would you rather work in a unionized or non-unionized environment?

the place where i work recently voted 'no', we don't want a union in here (after being harassed by a very large union for the last 5 years).

there were some who voted 'yes', but the majority of us voted 'no' and those that were pro-union are quite pissed off that the rest of us 'fail to see the light'.

kwintestal

It depends. For some I think it's the best way to go, for example government jobs. The government has an obligation to the tax payer to make their tax $$ go as far as they can, therefore they have an obligation to pay it's workers as little as possible. The union balances that out so that it's fair to the worker, and the tax payer.

I don't think every job should be unionized though, but that's up to the company to keep the employees happy enough that they don't want a union.

Kwin

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Has Anyone on the Board read the Gospel of Judas Ishariot?

by orangefatcat in

as of late i've been facinated about the books or gospels that didn't become part of the bible cannon.. i am reading it presently and i have learned how this gospel was found and the intricate work that has gone in to protecting and preserving the precious remnants of papyri that makes up this gospel of judus ishariot.

i was wondering if any one else is interested in this sort of thing?.

my son just bought me the gnostic bible too, and it is quite interesting.

kwintestal

Yes, I did read it a while ago. I thought it was interesting, but perhaps I missed what others found to be important in it. Maybe I'll have to look at it again. As I recall, the National Geographic website has a really good section on the gospel.

Kwin

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What's with Ex-Jw's who join another religion? Fool me Twice????

by Witness 007 in

sorry no offense but why do some ex-witnesses here join another group....we have a muslim {muhamed was given a koran by an angel in a cave?

}....we have some baptists etc......i researched the bible and found there are 1,000's of gospels not part of the bible...so what's the deal...."fool me once shame on you..fool me twice shame on me" or do you have a reason for continued belief in religion...i really wan't to know since iam agnostic and don't believe in god or evolution????

?

kwintestal

Maybe because they don't know anything else? But for me, once the ball got rolling, I couldn't not face the questions I had regarding God and religion. I had no choice but to not believe.

Kwin

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That evil feeling of satisfaction.........................

by Warlock in

i knew a brother who was an ms. his father was an elder in a neighboring congregation, a "rich" congregation.

his chest was always puffing out because of this.

of course, he would only engage in conversation with those who were also of "the privileged class".

kwintestal

It's good to see the kids living the lives they want to live despite their parents. Bravo for them, and who cares what their parents feel.

Kwin

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There is more to life than...

by sweetface2233 in

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being really, really, really, ridiculously good-looking.

kwintestal

Is there really? I can't believe that.

Kwin

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Nintendo Wii

by sandy in

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does anybody know how to order the old game super mario brothers for wii?

i heard you can order online and download it but i can't find the actual page to order it.

maybe i need to register my wii first w/ nintendo.com?

kwintestal

You must buy Wii points. You can get them online, or at Walmart or your local game store. Once you buy them, you load them onto your Wii. Then, on the Wii menu there's an option to search through the games available for download. You do that and find the game you're looking for and you use your Wii points to buy them. It's been about a year since I downloaded Super Mario so I don't remember exactly the steps to do it, but that's the idea. You have to connect your Wii to the internet though, either wirelessly, or with a USB connection.

Kwin

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real one --- please provide proof here

by kwintestal in

sorry to saratonin wrath for his thread being hijacked.

real one ... please provide the evidence that you said was out there on this thread here to avoid further hijacking of the other thread.. insults towards non-believers are also better suited to this thread then the other one as well.. kwin.

kwintestal

Kwin, there are many books written by athiest who converted to christianity researching about Christ. I will look it up. I hope you are feeling fine.

Yes, but you said there was proof of miracles. I'd like to see that proof, please.

Kwin

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Tardiness and opening prayers ....

by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

i'm sure everyone remembers the "stellar" prayers that are offered from the platform before the start of the meetings.

at one point, it was customary for the brother to pray that jehovah "hasten the feet" of those on their way to the meetings.

after all, with family responsibilities etc.

kwintestal

I used to pray that I'd be late. Then I'd pray that I didn't have to go at all. Then, I just stopped praying and stopped going too.

Kwin