has it ever happened to you, something so dispicable you would rather go to your grave, not having forgiven someone a wrong they had done you, hopeful that god would sort it out in the end?
mind you, i know things like child molestation, rape and murder are things for which it is difficult, if not impossible, to be forgiving of.
that being said, where does one draw the line on forgiveness?
Nancy Drake,
OMG I cannot not believe your reply, I thought I was the only person on planet earth to have a Mom that cruel. I have found it necessary to cut all ties with my mom because of her cancer and heart attack scares. I have let go of the anger, but I cannot let her hurt me anymore, it took 48 years of misery to get to this point.
I forgive you Mom, but no more.
has it ever happened to you, something so dispicable you would rather go to your grave, not having forgiven someone a wrong they had done you, hopeful that god would sort it out in the end?
mind you, i know things like child molestation, rape and murder are things for which it is difficult, if not impossible, to be forgiving of.
that being said, where does one draw the line on forgiveness?
I have wrestled with the same question. I think that forgiveness implies allowing that person back into a full role in your life. And I don't think that is necessary. If someone has proven themselves to be untrustworthy we need not let them back in.
I think we need to let go of hate and thoughts of revenge if you want to call that forgiveness. But if someone has been cruel and will probably do so again we can let go of hate without welcoming that person into our circle of loved ones.
When we forgive or let go of hate, we can send that person off to live their life in peace and wish them no ill will, but we need not be a part of their life, nor let them be part of ours.
Of course this is drastic and should be saved for extreme circumstances such as you described.
well the big day is finaly upon me.i know i have'nt been posting these last few day's i been in a lot of pain,to sit and my pc, so i just wanted you all to know that it will be at least 3 weeks until i get home.i will be thinking of about all of you and my son has promised me that he will update every few days here
all my love.
orange fat cat.
Get better soon! I hope the nurses and doctors are nice and the bedpans are warm!
do you let your feelings show at work.
when i was a kid my dad said i wore my heart on my sleeve, and i do.
this always caused my dad distress "you just can't do that" he would say.
Do you let your feelings show at work. When I was a kid my Dad said I wore my heart on my sleeve, and I do. This always caused my Dad distress "you just can't do that" he would say. Well it happens and I don't want to seem unprofessional in the workplace. What to do, is it OK?
have you ever met someone and for some unknown reason this person just rubs you the wrong way ,i don't know if it's a vibe they give off or what but something that makes you dislike about that person.
my son who is 21 started to date this girl and there is something about her i so much dislike and i can't help the way i feel.
i have 4 grown kids all have dated and brought there dates home and i was receptive to them all but i cannot to this girl.
I had a similar experience with a co-worker, I just could not stand her. But gradually over time I began to see that she was a quality person and I began to think very highly of her and finally became friends. I was glad to had kept my initial feelings to myself. Take some time to get to know her a little at a time. Be patient with her and yourself.
does your life have a purpose or are you just existing?
over the years i've learned to extract the good out of bad situations and it has given me a different perspective on life.
life is all about learning.
Well, Been,
I appreciate your honesty and I so often feel the same way. Not always but often. I wish I could get the optimism of childhood back. You know the kind where you couldn't wait to go out to play because wonderful adventures awaited you every day.
when you got out or were helped out, did you believe that the world was really immoral and that people could do whatever they wanted and no one would care because the world loves its own?
When you got out or were helped out, did you believe that the world was really immoral and that people could do whatever they wanted and no one would care because the world loves its own?
does your life have a purpose or are you just existing?
over the years i've learned to extract the good out of bad situations and it has given me a different perspective on life.
life is all about learning.
Golf,
Interesting question, do I live or exist? Sometimes a little of each. I have four grown children and two grown stepchildren, also four step-grandchildren. I believe that I have come to many of the same conclusions you have but sometimes I wonder if I am a little disconnected from things. I think I am afraid to make deep friendships. I had to learn to do without them and now it seems like so much work to make and keep meaningful friendships for what you get out of it, namely an opportunity to be rejected.
Squinks
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if shunning was stopped as a result of society policy change, do you think that there would be a significant exodus out of the organization????.
chukky
Great Question! Can you imagine the hurt and anger? For those that have been shunning loved ones to find out that the practice is old light? Families are dynamic, always changing, births, deaths and all those little moments that make a life, all missed because of shunning. The outrage would drive them out in droves!
I would be furious myself. It would remind me of how cruel and senseless the practice is and force me to relive the pain and long for all the moments I missed with my sister and my niece and nephews.
But I would have a hard time welcoming old friends back into my life. Even if old dear friends that I have missed over the years came to me in the wake of a shunning recall, how would I ever get back the level of trust it takes to make a deep friendship?
i actually went to the meeting this morning (okay, sumeone talked me into going)...........god it was boring.......something about jesus and the kingdom and frigging deuteronomy and hebrews and jeremiah-was-a-bullfrog...........and then they talked about old faithful: mathew 28:19 20 "go therefore and piss everyone off selling btochtower and asleep magazines to all the inhabitents of the earth.
an' look: i am with you every frigging saturday morning till the government bans your sorry asses.
i escaped after the first meeting and met the stares of several good christians wanting to know why i was leaving half way through......i told the asshole elder who followed me outside: " i've got my period!!
OMG, this is bringing back so many memories, I feel like I'm gonna barf! Mary you are a riot and so right.
And dear Kitties, that sounds so very typical that it doesn't even surprise me, maybe that's why I feel like ralphing!
Reminds me of a "sheparding call" I received many years ago. I was in the process of a divorce from my cheatin elder husband, I had a boatload o kids and no way to care for them, etc. . . I was about ready for the old fetal position myself. I went on 3 day crying jags myself, seriously can you imagine crying for 3 days, dehydration.
The elders that came over were Brother Overbearing and Brother Scared of his Own Shit, as I recall. Brother Overbearing began screaming at me because I was faltering while Brother Scared of his Own Shit sat there with his eyes bugging out. I started sobbing and ran out of My Own House.
And so dear kitties you have company, I am so sorry for what you have been through. Hugs. Speaking of meds, I want to get off the Paxil but the shit is so addictive I can't, well thank god it's non-habit forming like my Doctor said!!!!
