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  Now predicting increase of anointed?

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i came across this nugget in the may 2014 issue:.

  "are you moving ahead with jehovah's organization".

  ....at one time, the anointed remnant were like the little one, but their number grew as other spiritual israelites were brought into gods organization.

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  belbab

  Jgnat's quote from the WT is not the first time the gov body has tried to increase the number of anointed. About six years ago a poster name "Cyberguy" quoted an enigmatic paragraph from a WT mag that seemed to indicate the WT was trying to increase the number of anointed ones. I posted on the subject but no one caught on. No one replied. That year the number of anointed did rise. Here is a link to the thread that will lead you to "Cyberguy's" initial thread. I hope it works.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/current/153098/1/WT-Orchestrates-annual-anointed-numbers

  I hope it works.

  belbab
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  Glaring Mistake In RNWT And Todays WT

  by piztjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  todays' wt had this sentence in one of the paragraphs....we know this because each of their individual names are indelibly written upon the 12 foundation stones of the heavenly new jerusalem.rev.

  21:14.. the cross reference lists judas iscariot as one of the twelve.

  so with one breath they have said judas was cursed as jesus betrayer, and yet in their rnwt they still cross reference him in the list of the twelve named foundation stones of nj.

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  belbab

  Bobcat,

  Is the one word you indicate "faithful". Judas according to WT was not "faithful". but then they say "twelve" apostles. Then they must include the replacement of Judas as mentioned in Acts.

  belbab
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  Can a JW be accused of apostasy for just quoting scriptures?

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for example, let's say an awake jw wanted to share ttatt about the true meaning of john 10:16, so he just posts on his facebook wall a couple passages of scripture with no commentary whatsoever - like this:.

  "in answer he said: i was not sent forth to any but to the lost sheep of the house of israel.

  - matthew 15:24.

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  belbab

  When I was being hunted down all across the country back in 73, that is two years before 1975, I was summoned by a local committee who received a letter from the district servant from the east to bring me in for questioning. The committee had never seen me before. . They were extolling and praising the "mother" organization all the ways up to the heavens. Look at the increase, look at all the new publications, look at the joy and happiness, etc. etc. I was being hauled up because I had been proclaiming we were worshiping an organization instead of worshipping the supreme Creator.

  I quoted a scripture from memory, I believe it is in the book of Revelations and also in one of the Hebrew prophetes. From memory the text goes, Ya, you say: "We sit a queen and we shall see no evil" but distruction is awaiting you.l

  The congregation servant, came around noon to the place where I was working. He said he looked up the scripture, and he was filled with rage. The context of the reference was applied to Jerusalem as well as Babylon the Great.

  Conumed with anger he told me the committee had pronounced disfellowshipping me.

  belbab
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  Nelson Mandela - comments of what his life meant to you

  by MMXIV in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  nelson mandela has passed on.

  he was a symbol of hope and peace to many.

  has his life and achievements meant anything personal to members of jwn?.

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  belbab

  Sorry, I reread the whole thread and I see that Afrikanman and others have mentionned his connection with Jehovah's Witnesses. Still, if you have and opportunity to read his biography you may come to a greater understanding of the man and his devotion to freedom.

  belbab
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  Nelson Mandela - comments of what his life meant to you

  by MMXIV in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  nelson mandela has passed on.

  he was a symbol of hope and peace to many.

  has his life and achievements meant anything personal to members of jwn?.

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  belbab

  I don't know if anyone has posted this information on this board yet. Nelson Mandela wrote an autobiography of his life that was pulished in 1994.

  It is called "Long Walk to Freedom". It is one of the most powerful books I have ever read. His first wife was called Evelyn and they had a number of children together. On page 206 of the book, He writes:

  "Over the course of the next year Evelyn became involved with the Watch Tower organization, part of the church of Jehovah's Witnesses. Whether this was due to some dissatisfaction with her life at the time, I do not know. The Jehovah's Witnesses took the Bible as the sole rule of faith and believed in a coming Armageddon between good and evil. Evelyn zealously began distributing their publication The Watchtower, and began to proselytize me as well, urging me to convert my commitment to the struggle to a commitment to God. Although I found some aspects of the Watchtower's system to be interesting and worthwhile, I could not and did not share her devotion. There was an obsessional element to it that put me off. From what I could discern, her faith taught passivity and submissiveness in the face of oppression, something I could not accept.

  Later in the book somewhere it states they were divorced and it seemed to indicate that she left him, not the contrary. He also attended a Kingdom Hall wedding ceremony of one of his and Evelyn's children. Somewhere I have seen photographs of him attending the Kingdom Hall.

  Today the whole world is celebrating his commitment to freedom. Will there be any mention of him amongst Jehovah's Witnesses?

  belbab
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  Quotes to discourage JWs from researching WT history?

  by JWOP in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  are there any direct quotes from the watchtower's literature that discourages investigation into their past doctrines and practices?.

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  belbab

  I remember Nathan Knorr telling the 1959-1960 Gilead class to not keep Awake magazines volumes that were over eight years old. Here, brain washed me packing around 20 years of hand bound volumes from place to place.

  belbab
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  True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

  by BluePill2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

  during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

  as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

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  belbab

  This thread has been on my mind for the last few days.

  BluePill says that all the documents from the Nicaragua ended up in going to Mexico. Are the Mexican authoritities in the know that documents are now being stored in their country?

  We know that JW pedophile publicity has been quite extensive in the US and Great Britain, also Australia. Canada.

  What about other countries? Mexico for example. Maybe those of us who are pedophile exposers should shake the pedophile fruit tree in other countries and see what falls out to the ground. What are the Mexican laws on pedophilia. What about other countries? "Can any thing good come out of 'the back waters, the boonies," of Galiliee, Mexico, or other less known countries?

  Any feed back?

  belbab, shiddisturber
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  MY 10 YEAR OLD COMES HOME FROM SPECIAL ASSEMBLY DAY AND SAYS...

  by PaintedToeNail in

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  2. friends

  "there was a kid who turned down a college scholarship so he could pioneer.

  how stupid!

  i would do anything to have a scholarship.

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  belbab

  How about biblical situations? Daniel and his young buddies, were sent by the 'governing body" of the Jewish elders as a guarantee for Jewish subjection to the Superior Authorities of the Babylon Empire. They received "scolarships" and recieved extensive education and became civil servants in the Babylonian government.

  Yeah, and today the Governing Body of Jah's yes men, take bright students and send them to law schools to learn how to rob pedophile victims.

  belbab, of the missed opportunities class.
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  True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

  by BluePill2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

  during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

  as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

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  belbab

  Blue's post proves THAT TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION.

  No one could have invented this story of three young boys being molested and the perpretator absolved from proscecution by putting him at the Bethel gates to guard the premises.

  If he was truly a witness that proclaimed the loving kindness of a Supreme being, he would have volunteered to pull his pants down on his own volition and exonerate the boys.

  The Book says, ie. the New World Translation, in Malachi 3:5 where the One Who Causes What Is states that "I will become a speedy witness against ........those acting fraudulently with the fatherless boy(s) . Those boys were placed in the perps domain because they were in need , fatherless, as explained by BuePill 2.

  So they place the bugger (ie Sodomizer) at their front gates to guard the premises. Later they remove all correspondence about the affair to the branch office in Mexico. Mexico, watch out, you have a hot potatoe on your hands. You may get burnt!

  Some one may muster up the courage to speak out and be a "quick witness" and expose the sordid affair.

  Keep on truckin, Blue Boy too, keep hauling out the garbage.

  belbab.
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  I AM BACK AFTER A LONG ABSENCE,

  by orangefatcat1951 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi eveyone, it has been a longtime since i have stopped in to catch up on news and see how things have change.

  for those of you who don't know me i have been on and off the board for 11 years.

  i have over 3,500 posts under the name orangefatcat, in the members list.

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  belbab

  Hi Orange Fat Cat,

  I remember you. Welcome back.

  I too was outraged at the events taking place in Nicaragua as portrayed by BLue Pill 2.

  My intention is not to let it fade away into the unfathomable archives of forgetfulness.

  Watchtower must be held accountable.

  Belbab