"Make sure of all things" had "concious" instead of "conscious" in bold type.
Belmont
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Sloppy typo in the Watchtower.
by Nemesis ini was just wondering if this typo is in the us version also?
its in the 1 may 2002 watchtower p.31 on the far right block of text on the seventh line down:.
and members of the great crowd are not in the inner courtyard of jehovahs great spiritual temple, which courtyard represents the condition of prefect, righteous human sonship ot the members of jehovahs holy priesthood while they are on earth.. i know its just a small typo, but i have never seen a mistake like this before [to my memory] in the watch towers literaturehas anyone else?.
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Widowed DO takes 30 yr old Wife!!!
by ISP inwidowed d.o.
bro derek carter has caused something of a stir by marrying a 30yr old pioneer sister that is at least half his age.
if you ever saw bro carter you would notice a strong resemblance to 'uncle fester' of the adams family.
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Belmont
The widowed DO who looks like Uncle Fester is David Carter, not Derek Carter.
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Anyone have any controversial "meeting&quo...
by Waygooder64 indoes anyone have any really cool stories about fights,arguments or anything else controversial that happened at the kh or a book study?
the reason i ask is that what happened to danni and her partner will be talked about for ages at that particular hall.
when i was about 16 i once saw 2 brothers arguing over who would take the service group that weekend.the whole congregation was about as quiet as a mouse pissing on a cottonball!
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Belmont
We were once in a congregation near a mental home. At weekends, inmates were allowed to wander round the town. One Sunday, a group came into the hall during the public talk and a woman went on the platform and stood next to the speaker gazing down at his feet. This went on for some time as no one seemed to know what to do. Eventually she said "What size are your shoes? and left the platform.
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Where were you when you first came here?
by Xena ini noticed in a couple of threads people discussing the impact this board would have on jw's with doubts coming here and reading the messages.
it got me to wondering where most people that post here were at...what stage in their jw/ex jw process...when they started reading and/or posting here.
also curious, when you did come here what was your main focus?
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Belmont
We had started to pull away as a result of researching the society's literature and the p.o. called to see if "all was well". We reassured him, and he said "That's good - the c.o. said you must have been looking at the internet!" So we did.
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With friends like these.......
by Belmont inwe've been out three years after many many years enmeshed in the org; not df'd or da'd, just fading away for family's sake.
this is a letter we received this morning from a jw friend of 25 years' standing who has continued to invite us to her house for meals, and eat with us during the past three years.. dear****, when i first knew you had ceased coming to the meetings, my heart felt love for you both, made me visit you.
the intention was to win back my dear brother and sister.. over a period of time i have come to realize that you have ceased associating with jehovah's organization and my conscience now feels i cannot continue our association.. i am sorry to lose you as friends.
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Belmont
We've been out three years after many many years enmeshed in the org; not df'd or da'd, just fading away for family's sake. This is a letter we received this morning from a jw friend of 25 years' standing who has continued to invite us to her house for meals, and eat with us during the past three years.
Dear****, When I first knew you had ceased coming to the meetings, my heart felt love for you both, made me visit you. The intention was to win back my dear brother and sister.
Over a period of time I have come to realize that you have ceased associating with Jehovah's organization and my conscience now feels I cannot continue our association.
I am sorry to lose you as friends. Not my will but Jehovah's will is more important to me. I know you will understand. *****
We have no illusions about the conditional nature of jw friendships - it's interesting to see it confirmed in writing. By the way, we have never discussed with her our reasons for leaving.
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Business Territory
by Amazing inbusiness territory in the 1960s and 1970s: when i was first associated in the late 1960s, it was common to see jws roaming the streets of downtown districts, offering the magazines.
sometime in the early 1970s, after i had been a jw for a few years, we worked businesses directly.
this was especially true when certain events were newsworthy - such as the persecution of jehovah's witnesses in malawi.
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Belmont
We were on holiday in Katoomba, NSW 3 years ago and met a jw sitting in the main street beside a table of wt publications. He was a timid sort of fellow and explained that he didn't like going on the work and preferred to sit by the table and wait for people to approach him. Shortly afterwards, his photograph appeared in the wt as a fine example of zeal and fearlessness!
More recently, a jw in Bristol, UK, who also used this form of witnessing, left his post momentarily. When he came back, his table was stolen and his mags thrown on the ground! Obviously a discerning thief.
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Religion vs. Spirituality
by Introspection inhas anyone else noticed that we get a lot of "who has the truth" and "what is the true religion" type messages?
but you never hear anyone ask something like "how do i develop authentic spirituality?
" granted, the word spiritual is abstract and vague, but there is the matter of the individual aspect of the word spirituality.
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Belmont
Having escaped the clutches of the cult (after 40 years), there is an overwhelming and persistent feeling of joy - the knowledge that nothing will ever be as bad again. Belonging to a religion just means following the rules and produces guilt and fear. A sister on her deathbed (aged 23)said to me "Have I done enough?" Spirituality produces joy and confidence.
I see something of God each hour of the twenty-four, and each moment then,
In the faces of men and women I see God, and in my own face in the glass,
I find letters from God dropt in the street, and every one is sign'd by God's name,
And I leave them where they are, for I know that wheresoe'er I go,
Others will punctually come for ever and ever.Walt Whitman, "Song of myself".
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Life in a small town
by Belmont inwe live in a small town in england where for 30 years we were stalwarts of the local congregation, and then walked away, not df'd or da'd.
there is virtually only one main street, and the reaction of the jws to us is a lesson in human behaviour.
some ostentatiously shun us, some "love bomb" us, and one elder whom we have known since he was 10 years old, actually walked away when we spoke to him.
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Belmont
We live in a small town in England where for 30 years we were stalwarts of the local congregation, and then walked away, not DF'd or DA'd.
There is virtually only one main street, and the reaction of the jws to us is a lesson in human behaviour. Some ostentatiously shun us, some "love bomb" us, and one elder whom we have known since he was 10 years old, actually walked away when we spoke to him. However, at the same time, we have been approached privately by 4 long-standing jws, relating horror stories of their treatment in the
congregation. Unfortunately, they can see no farther than the shortcomings of the local elders. not recognising that the whole edifice is corrupt.One actually said "If only Bethel knew, they would put it right" which is a consoling thought if you are living under an abusive regime. Many must have thought the same about Hitler or Stalin. It's difficult to admit to yourself that everything you've been clinging on to for years is nonsense. How does one respond to them without frightening them away?
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Nourishment for the Spirit
by Maximus inmy observation is that persons who 1) heal/adjust the most rapidly from their jw experience and 2) seem to have the most joy in life are those who read, read, read, in pursuit of what i call nourishment for the spirit.
i've really enjoy the pithy aphorisms you use here, which suggests you've distilled some wisdom from somewhere.
i'm going to ask your help in this thread.
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Belmont
Intensive reading has certainly helped me. Ray Franz's books, of course, and also First World War poetry. The horror of that experience, and the elation of being free struck a chord with me.
Everyone suddenly burst out singing;
And I was filled with such delight
As prisoned birds must find in freedom,
Winging wildly across the white
Orchards and dark-green fields; on-on-and out of sight......
Siegfried Sassoon.It's so great to be free, as he says, "the singing will never be done".
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Englishman's party
by Belmont inhave just spent a delightful afternoon at englishman's barbecue - sunshine, good food and wine, and scintillating company.
mr. dubinapub was there, singing irish rebel songs and passing round illicit liquor.. am i being corrupted by bad associations?
:-)
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Belmont
Have just spent a delightful afternoon at Englishman's barbecue - sunshine, good food and wine, and scintillating company. Mr. dubinapub was there, singing Irish rebel songs and passing round illicit liquor.
Am I being corrupted by bad associations? :-)