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just wanted to put this out there for any lurkers.. as someone that grew up during the 70s and 80s, we were promised that we would be in the first picture long ago.
if you are still on the fence, please let this sink in for a while..
I remember sitting at the Kingdom Hall when I was 14 and my friends dad held up his hand a proclaimed that he fully expected never to grow old.
Well, my friend and I are 50 and his dad is well into his 70's.
I got out in my late 20's but sadly my brothers and sister are still fully indoctrinated.
Interestingly I found out that my massage therapist is a former "almost" JW.
Boy the stories we tell each other.
for me it was when i learned that gb makes their decisions by 2/3 majority vote, not by direction of holy spirit..
My Aha moment was at a JW wedding.
The elder was giving the wedding talk and mentioned how the wedding ring was a pagan symbol but we don't look at it that way now. That really got me thinking.
Now I absoulutely love Christmas. I wanted so bad to celebrate as a kid. My mom even realized this and let me watch the Christmas cartoons like Rudolph and Frosty. Of course we were never allowed to actually celebrate it because it was pagan and we would die a horrible death if we did.
I thought "Wait a minute!! How can one thing be pagan but is OK to do because "We don't see it that way" and Christmas be wrong because it's pagan"?
From then on my eyes were open and one day at a Circuit Assembly I just got up and walked away. I remember it was a beautiful sunny day. I drove to my moms house and had a wonderful visit with her.
Life has been good ever since.
my sister met him on facebook and is all crazy about him.. he's coming on a little strong and i'm a little worried about her.. just seeing if he's a good guy or not.. thanks,.
She said he goes to the lower Manhattan cong.
It also looks like he was trying to scam some money out of her.
She's says she's done with him. I can only hope.
Thanks for the help.
my sister met him on facebook and is all crazy about him.. he's coming on a little strong and i'm a little worried about her.. just seeing if he's a good guy or not.. thanks,.
My sister met him on Facebook and is all crazy about him.
He's coming on a little strong and I'm a little worried about her.
Just seeing if he's a good guy or not.
Thanks,
my wife and i went to fedex / kinko's this afternoon and ran into a girl who was df'ed several years ago, (her parents are quite the rabid jw's.).
they have two daughters, and the younger one recently got married at the kh.. the older one who we were talking to proceeded to tell us that she decided to attend her younger sisters wedding ceremony which was fine despite the fact that nobody talked to her.. but after the wedding she was basically ushered out of the hall.
she was not allowed to participate in any pictures, or allowed to speak to the new couple.
When my niece was getting married 3 years ago to my best friends little brother she specifically requested that I not attend. I'm not disfellowshipped, just faded. My best friend little sister wanted me to go as her date just to bug them.
But all's well that end's well.
On that very day I had my first date with my now girlfriend of 3 years.
Oh yeah, and way back when I got married (I"m divorced now) my sister and mother refused to attend because my bride to be wasn't a witness.
That one messed up religion cult.
most jw.s really believe that they ( as we once did ) are promoting gods will, but what if they really are ?
is it possible that god is supporting them even though they (governing body ) lie, because most jw,s are ignorant of the lies told on their behalf, ?.
when i was a jw i got attacked by the demons bigtime, but not now, and i can only assume that they (demons ) are happy that i am no longer a jw and are now leaving me alone, cant think of any other reason, has god ever supported a group who were similarly found wanting ?.
I haven't read all 7 pages so sorry if this has already been mentioned.
I see it as quite simple why you are no longer being harrassed by demons.
The WTS is constantly pounding it in your head that demons are real and when anything bad happens it must be them harrassing you. Eventually you start believing this and blame everything from your car breaking down to a storm knocking the power out on a meeting night to the demons.
My mom was the champion of this. Everything bad happening was Satan and the demons. Everything good was because of Jehovah. I was even told when I got a good job it was because of Jehovah. Not because I had a good education and lots of experience and was a great employee.
Now that you are not exposed to that line of thinking 3 times a week you start to see that when bad things happen it's either your fault or totally out of your control. Sometime sh!t happens.
When I was a child I used to pray every night that the demons wouldn't get me. All thanks to the WTS scaring the hell out of a little kid. Now that I'm out I know they don't exist and there is no boggyman under my bed.
anonymous brother does it again!
(huge round of applause!!!
(regular) http://www.sendspace.com/file/nzjme3.
I have to admit if I was a person at the door and a witness started showing me this I would be insulted. This brochure is pathetic. They must be going for the very dim witted people if this is there idea of getting people interest. This reads like something you would see in a daycare center.
Man the WBTS has sure went downhill since I left. When I was in the mags and brochure actually looked interesting and gave some compelling arguments even if they were dead wrong.
Now it's just follow us or die. Only JW's know what the bible says.
And the artwork is horrible. Everything is out of perportion and very poorly drawn.
What a waste of paper and time.
i love boxing.
it kicks arse all over the place.
although it has lost some of it's prior glory and has waaaay too many classes that are televised and billed as "main events", it's still better than mma (sorry to any mma fans; i actually don't mind ufc, i'm just saying that i prefer traditional boxing).. anywho, what is the deal with jws hating on boxing?
As someone that's competes in fighting on a regular basis, I can say that boxing is not violence.
Granted I'm not a boxer but a martial artist that competes all the time. I love fighting (sparring) with other competitors. When two boxers or any other fighters compete against each other it's usually with the upmost respect. They fight each other to become better at their sport.
If I don't spar with other karate practitioners I can't get any better at my sport. I need someone to challenge me to step up my game. I've walked away from a sparring session with blood on my gi and a busted nose. And I can say I've had the time of my life.
I would have to say the same applies to boxers.
once again , i couldn't resist sharing this wt study article from this issue.
it was just too good, or bad - depending on your perspective.
you will see the use of fear and guilt in this information - laying it on witnesses heavy as the title says " christian families - " keep ready " indicating armageddon is so close - so don't get wrapped up in materialism.. right from the get-go in the 1st paragraph fear tactics are used .
Then to instill further GUILT into younger JW's concerning materialism it gives an example of an Ethiopian teenage Witness girl. It states, " She did so well in her schoolwork that upon completing her basic education, she was offered a scholarship for further education. Having her eye focused on serving Jehovah, however, she TURNED DOWN THE SCHOLARSHIP. Soon thereafter, she received a job offer that would pay her 3,000 euros a month - a high amount in comparison with the average wages in her country. But the girl's " eye " was set on pioneer service. She did NOT NEED TO CONSULT HER PARENTS to TURN DOWN the job.
JW's must be the smartest most skilled people on the planet. I think everyone of them is offered some sort of scholorship or amazing job.
So if you need a job in this bad economy, just become a JW. The colleges and companies will be knocking down your door.
i see no jw connections with this guy.
why in the world would he put watchtower on his album back cover?
especially an album titled "illuminations.".
Funny when he came out with these albums I never even thought about the Borg. I'm pretty sure there are no connections.
And I have to say I've been to 3 of his concerts and these are by far the best concerts I've ever been to. And yes I'v been to allot of concerts.
The sound was amazing. He actually sounds better in person than on CD. He always uses a local symphony and chior. He was touring with an amazing violinest (Lucia Micareli). He puts on a great show without all the fireworks or laser lights.
If you get a chance to see him I would highly recommend it.
