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  How it feels.

  by wanderlustguy in

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  don't know how else to title this one.

  i went almost a whole week and didn't even think about "them".

  i work out away from computers, etc so i'm not digging for info anymore, no more research, no more stories about how wrong someone was done, just life.

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  wiegel

  I know, isn't it cool? Talk about being "reborn"!!!!
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  california

  by lola28 in

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  i was just wondering how many here are from california, i noticed several and just wanted to see how many of us there are.. .

  lola

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  wiegel

  Southern CA
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  Confirmed News about Printing in Brooklyn

  by stillajwexelder in

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  tonight we had a letter read "to all congregations in the united states".

  i will paraphrase.

  the graphics department has moved to walkill as from nov 30th 3005. this includes all artwork prepartion and other associated departments.

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  wiegel

  Once again, why do they need 4 new high-rise residence buildings in Manhattan??? Is there not a thinking one left among them?
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  Bethel Downsizing Again!

  by zack in

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  i do not know if any of you have heard.

  no one in my congo.

  other than one other elder on the body has heard:.

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  wiegel

  Will this be a prelude to telling the congregations that they can now cut down on their donations? Might as well spread the cost-cutting across the board, yeah?
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  Over 160,000 Simply Left The "Truth" Last Year

  by minimus in

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  that was the comment that a former elder made at the local meeting today in his comment.

  evidently, he and his wife heard a bethel speaker's comment during his talk say that (i believe the figure was) 167,000 people did not get disfellowshipped but simply left.

  the ex-elder made it a point to say that the elders should be watching to help out the flock before they up and leave.

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  I'm going with Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men" when he said "You can't handle the truth". They don't have the truth and they can't handle it if it's shown to them. To some who ask why I left, I have to tell them that I can't tell them, and that while I was still in, I couldn't talk to anyone about it. I HAVE however, been telling witness family and friends who will talk to me, that I DID NOT LEAVE because I'm gay, which has been a major "assumption" of many.

  My leaving had nothing to do with my being gay, but everything to do with finding out that it has all been a lie. I am still not d'fed although over the past few years I have told many that I no longer believe that it is God's organization. I think I still have some "spititual clout" due to a family member who is a prominent elder in my old cong. Don't think he will ever push to get me kicked out because he is under pressure from non-believing family to not upset the apple cart by shunning me and making family get-to-gethers (I hate that word) difficult.

  trudy
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  My Story

  by DaveNwisconsin in

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  i wanted to share with people my story about the witnesses.

  when i was five my mother had been searching for a new religion.

  she was brought up catholic and didn't understand the church.

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  wiegel

  Welcome, Dave, and thanks for your story.
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  Do You Appreciate Getting Insider JW Information???

  by minimus in

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  i do.

  i'd like to tell all of you active jw spies that i appreciate it when you tell us the latest.

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  ABSOLUTELY! Thank you to all who spill the scoop here, it helps me with dealings with my witness family members.
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  January 15 WT : Beware of Apostasy

  by truthseeker in

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  hi all, this post comes from the e-watchman site, when i get the mags, i will post further.. http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=433.

  the following is taken from the watchtower of january 15, 2006, page 23 under the heading 'resist the foremost apostate': .

  'because of listening to the devil and not rejecting his lies, the first human pair apostatized.

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  wiegel

  Welcome Sentient! Great post and one that many of us agree with, me for one....stick around, I look forward to hearing more from you. Trudy
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  Dumbing down of WT literature can be measured mathematically.

  by hamsterbait in

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  every magazine on the news stand is very carefully aimed at a target market.. .

  it has long been known that how information is presented makes a big difference to who will read it.

  you will agree that the ny times or scientific american are more erudite than the national enquirer or the toronto star.. .

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  HB - this is great! I guess that's one way to hang onto the "weakest" of the bunch - mentally speaking. If you feel talked-down-to, you're not likely to stick around forever. So it becomes survival of the weakest. Easy to lead, easy to control...............
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  Is Christmas for fun?

  by LittleToe in

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  given that so many practises associated with christmas are blatantly christian in origin but christianity endorses spiritual self-flagellation/crucifixion, moderation, and enough "-isms" to make your eyes water, is christmas truly for fun?

  i know that often there are few christian connotations attributed to it nowadays, in such a hedonistic and sensory society, but history is on record in showing that the whole baby jesus thing is definitely a christian element.

  would any true hedonist today want to drink such a mixed cup (potentially of poor-grade wine)?

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  wiegel

  FUN and FAMILY -