Posts by Goldminer

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Dub at work said that the Knowledge book was too difficult for new ones

by acsot in

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to understand so that's why the wts published the new book being released at this year's district conventions.. the new book gets "straight to the point".

according to her "and many others", the knowledge book was too difficult for those just beginning a bible study.

i said, "you're kidding!

Goldminer

Well when I looked at the new book I couldn't believe it.It's the 4th edition of the original blue "truth" book.Then came the "live forever" bookand a revised version,then the "knowledge" book,now this re-hashed,same 'ol shit in a somewhat different format.

I remember when the Knowledge book came out(way back in '95,long,long time ago) they said that after studying this book within 6 months,a person would have enough knowledge to decide whether they wanted to be baptised.Funny how many forget that and go oooh-aaah when the WTS gives them the same proper food at the same proper time since 1968.

Goldminer

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Analysis of a typical congregation

by DannyBloem in

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analysis of a typical congregation.

group a. percentage: 10 % .

name: the holy ones.

Goldminer

Close enough! I love these threads;whether the %s are right or not,doesn't matter,they're close enough.

We had all of the above here in northern ontario.

Goldminer

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Read any good books lately?

by chrissy in

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so, i will be down and out for awhile after a little surgery this week and i am trying to get a few books to keep myself amused and i am looking for suggestions on something you may have read recently and enjoyed.

i prefer non-fiction, but will consider reading anything highly recommended, as long as it contains at least a spark of truth.

well, i will recommend a book to you alla few days ago, i finished reading into the wild by jon krakauera biographical story about a young man who, after graduating college, got rid of all of his belongings and hitch-hiked across the country in search of jack london-esque adventures.

Goldminer

I read a lot of Ann Rule books.If you like true crime stories,she is by far the best writer.

Her website is www.annrules.com

Goldminer

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how to live with JW

by freefly in

hey,.

my partner in life (26yrs) has been converted to jw by his mother.. i am not one to whine -as very aware many have more troubles in their life.. i suppose one of my fears has been this exactly- as i know he was raised jw and should have saw the "signs.

" he always regularly visited with his mom, which i respected as felt a good sign he had a mother/son relationship.

Goldminer

Hi Freefly,

Welcome! Looks like you've got a good battle on your hands.I would recommend that you get the book Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz.It explains a lot of the inner workings of the WTS as well as many of their false doctrines plus it's written in a clear,easy way to read well thought out and many points to make a person reason with his mind.

As for myself,I don't want to have anything to do with the religion anymore but my wife wants to remain loyal no matter what.It's a tough situation here too but I'm not giving up.

Goldminer

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Drama at DC in KC

by stillajwexelder in

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well basically it was aimed at youths and was all about timothy and the apostle paul.

it was rammed down everybodys throat --no college- get pionerring just like timothy

Goldminer

I was there sunday and watched the drama.(left right after).The brother who gave the talk just before the drama and basically explaining it works for a very large mining company who will be around for a very long time.He will also be getting a very good pension long before he is 60 years old.And here he is telling the 18-20 year old crowd not to do like him but to go pionneer and how happy they'll be!!!! I thought what a crock and what hypocrisy.

Another thing I hate is how they equate earning a decent salary with unhappiness and all sorts of tribulations.What stupid reasoning!

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Recently Disfellowshipped

by dfd in

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i having been "lurking" around here for about a month--right when i was disfellowshipped actually.

in a year long relationship--broke up-five months later had a bout of conscience and told on myself.

myself and my ex are disfellowshipped and now most of my former group of "friends" are getting in trouble.

Goldminer

Welcome dfd!

Sounds like your battle isn't over.I hope we can help you along.

Goldminer

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Is the Watchtower hurting financially?

by truthseeker in

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while surfing e-watchman's paradise forum, i clicked on one of the topics i never go to, "our meetings & assemblies" and found an interesting post on the wt bleeding financially.. it was posted 3 months ago.. http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/viewtopic.php?t=2888&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0.

in my neck of the woods (which shall remain anonymous) the do and co have been circulating the rumour that the watchtower society is in financial straights and is being bled dry.

this must be very pressing.

Goldminer

This is all I have to say about it..."you received free,give free"-MT 10:8

I NEVER give them anything for their mags or books or anything else,they are filthy rich and trying to make profit look like contributions!

Goldminer

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At last finished reading Crisis of Conscience

by diamondblue1974 in

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and what an eye opener it was...dont get me wrong i faded some 10 years ago and the reasons for such were contained in the book, i.e 1914, failed prophecies and so forth.. the expose is disarming by its objective style and whilst i now read any literature through sceptical eyes i could see a person genuinely grieved by what had taken place and the crisis he was subjected to conscientiously; it said it all to me when he said that his aim was not to divert people from the jws but give them support so they could develop as christians and therefore allow them to come to their own conclusions (or words to that effect).. extremely well written and consise with reams of references (which i happen to love).. anyone that is recently out must read this book...it objective, honest and was totally surprising in parts.. db74

Goldminer

Hey Diamondblue!

Way to go,I think I read the book 3 or 4 times and learnt something everytime.You absolutely have to get In Search of Christian Freedom.It speaks a little deeper on a many subjects and will answer even more of your questions and doubts.Raymond Franz did an excellent job with his books and many of us owe him a debt of gratitude.

Goldminer

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My First Post

by Stress Free in

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i have been a regular visitor to this forum for the past 2 years or so, finally i got the courage to register.. you guys are an inspiration , your stories and experiences have helped me to take a stand against this controlling org.. in short, i was raised from birth as a jw, parents are from the old school very much hard liners, the society is their god.

is expected of you, get baptised as a teenager become a ms then elder.

i always had my doubts about the society and its teachings but was.

Goldminer

Welcome Stress Free!!

It's great you came out with your family;my wife will not walk away no matter what and it's making it very hard here.Anyways hang around and share your thoughts and comments,I too look forward to reading your story.

Goldminer

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The Watchtower Preaches Failure ... and Heartache

by metatron in

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driven by panic, the governing body's current theme continues to dominate their magazines.

and assemblies: the next generation of young witnesses are "leaving the truth" and must be.

stopped!

Goldminer

Excellent post Metatron!

I'm sitting here trying to think how many people I know who have left the org.I really can't think of them all,I'd have to take out pen and paper and start writing names;a very long list.

In my wife's family 3 out of 4 (75%) are out,in my sister's family 1 of 3 (33%)so far and there are many other families like that.Those that are still all in have many who are unhappy or sick or just going through the motions.I even firmly believe that the WTS is fudging its numbers to make look as though they still have a positive increase every year.The circuit and district assemblies here have declined close to 30% over the last 8 years and I suspect it's similar in many other districts.