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  A Child Molestor Wins Best Director....WoW

  by teenyuck in

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  i recall when roman polanski molested (raped) a 13 year old girl..... now he wins an oscar....something is wrong...

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  berten

  >PS...Berten, this has NOTHING to do with Iraq...
  
  Fine,whatever,if you so insist.But are *you* just as upset
  with what happens in Baghdad to children over there,
  as you are with what happened several years ago to one kid?
  
  Don't bother to answer,
  it has NOTHING to do with Iraq,
  i know...
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  A Child Molestor Wins Best Director....WoW

  by teenyuck in

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  i recall when roman polanski molested (raped) a 13 year old girl..... now he wins an oscar....something is wrong...

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  berten

  >Berten:
  >Talk about changing the subject! One has absolutely NOTHING to do with the other.
  
  OK,if you say so.I just find it hypocritical.
  
  >Do you have an opinion on Polanski's award or not?
  
  Oh,you want my opinion?
  And if I say he deserves his award,am I taking the side
  of a child molestor then?
  And if I say he does not,am I a good boy then?
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  A Child Molestor Wins Best Director....WoW

  by teenyuck in

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  i recall when roman polanski molested (raped) a 13 year old girl..... now he wins an oscar....something is wrong...

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  berten

  And are you all just as upset with your president ordering bombardments

  on a city with dead and wounded children as result?
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  YELLOW RIBBON : Show your support!

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  a lot of us can have different opinions about going war... some can support it... other can protest it... and thats what freedom of speech is all about.

  but there's a threshold and we're past that threshold... we're at war.

  so no matter what your opinions were before or even now no one can change the fact that we are at war and that won't change no matter how much those that oppose it try.

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  berten

  >(no yellow ribbon displayed... happy?)

  I played with the idea of loading your yellow ribbon into a drawing program

  so that I could put a large cross through it and then repost it .

  But I did not , because I knew this would upset alot of pro-troops people in here,

  and I am already being hated alot in here for speaking my mind...
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  YELLOW RIBBON : Show your support!

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  a lot of us can have different opinions about going war... some can support it... other can protest it... and thats what freedom of speech is all about.

  but there's a threshold and we're past that threshold... we're at war.

  so no matter what your opinions were before or even now no one can change the fact that we are at war and that won't change no matter how much those that oppose it try.

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  berten

  Why should we support troops who are armed and trained to kill in a war,

  when we do not agree with waging that war?
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  Helicopter just reported down

  by chachasmum in

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  it has just been reported that a helicopter has crashed all 16 people killed, near kuwait border.

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  berten

  Dubla wrote:
  >with your logic, no one should ever join the military,
  > and we should let the leaders of our country figure it out without armed forces...
  
  Yeah,imagine that:Bush and Saddam fighting it out in a boxing match
  organized in a neutral country and televized for all to see.
  Suppose they gave a war and nobody came to fight it,
  then your leader Bush would certainly not be so quick to declare war on someone.
  I just heard a while ago that he did not even do any army service!
  But he expects others to fight,the hypocrite...
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  If you were President????

  by LB in

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  lots of opinions here on this site.

  but i haven't seen anyone post an alternative to this war.

  i know many of you support it and many others recoil at the thought of this war.

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  berten

  Why this "urge" of Bush and his clique to "liberate" Iraq? There was never an immediate threat

  to the US coming from that country,and the terrorist link is also far from certain,and if he had WMD's

  why is Saddam not using them now? Maybe because he does not have any of them in stock anymore?

  And it's so hypocrytical:Now the warmongers are oh so concerned about the Iraqi people which is just

  a very convenient excuse to invade.

  So if I was president I would not destabilize that region any further...
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  Bush Demonized, No Matter What

  by DakotaRed in

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  how many times has the left stated there is no need to have war, but saddam should be just taken out?

  i've lost count how many times i have read that it all could be avoided if only saddam were taken out.

  tonight, bush tried to do just that:u.s. launches cruise missiles at saddamsaddam denounces attack as 'criminal'.

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  berten

  Dakotawhine wasted some more bandwith:

  >For you protestor/terrorists that wish to block the intersection I drive through, better think twice.

  >Protest and make your argument, but stay the hell out of my way.

  Or what?

  >Berten, thank you for showing me how well you articulate insults. It seems to be what the left is best at.

  I'm not a leftie and I am not a rightie (?), but that is most probably far too hard for you to comprehend.

  Insults or not,who is lumping the protesters and terrorists on one heap?

  You just did it again !
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  Bush Demonized, No Matter What

  by DakotaRed in

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  how many times has the left stated there is no need to have war, but saddam should be just taken out?

  i've lost count how many times i have read that it all could be avoided if only saddam were taken out.

  tonight, bush tried to do just that:u.s. launches cruise missiles at saddamsaddam denounces attack as 'criminal'.

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  berten

  This is what Michael Moore ("Bowling For Columbine","Stupid White Men") had to say:

  Dear Governor Bush:
  
  So today is what you call "the moment of truth," the day that "France and the rest of world have to show their cards on the table." I'm glad to hear that this day has finally arrived. Because, I gotta tell ya, having survived 440 days of your lying and conniving, I wasn't sure if I could take much more. So I'm glad to hear that today is Truth Day, 'cause I got a few truths I would like to share with you:
  
  1. There is virtually NO ONE in America (talk radio nutters and Fox News aside) who is gung-ho to go to war. Trust me on this one. Walk out of the White House and on to any street in America and try to find five people who are PASSIONATE about wanting to kill Iraqis. YOU WON'T FIND THEM! Why? 'Cause NO Iraqis have ever come here and killed any of us! No Iraqi has even threatened to do that. You see, this is how we average Americans think: If a certain so-and-so is not perceived as a threat to our lives, then, believe it or not, we don't want to kill him! Funny how that works!
  
  2. The majority of Americans -- the ones who never elected you -- are not fooled by your weapons of mass distraction. We know what the real issues are that affect our daily lives -- and none of them begin with I or end in Q. Here's what threatens us: two and a half million jobs lost since you >took office, the stock market having become a cruel joke, no one knowing if their retirement funds are going to be there, gas now costs two dollars a gallon -- the list goes on and on. Bombing Iraq will not make any of this go away. Only you need to go away for things to improve.
  
  3. As Bill Maher said last week, how bad do you have to suck to lose a popularity contest with Saddam Hussein? The whole world is against you, Mr. Bush. Count your fellow Americans among them.
  
  4. The Pope has said this war is wrong, that it is a SIN. The Pope! But even worse, the Dixie Chicks have now come out against you! How bad does it have to get before you realize that you are an army of one on this war? Of course, this is a war you personally won't have to fight. Just like when you went AWOL while the poor were shipped to Vietnam in your place.
  
  5. Of the 535 members of Congress, only ONE (Sen. Johnson of South Dakota) has an enlisted son or daughter in the armed forces! If you really want to stand up for America, please send your twin daughters over to Kuwait right now and let them don their chemical warfare suits. And let's see every member of Congress with a child of military age also sacrifice their kids for this war effort. What's that you say? You don't THINK so? Well, hey, guess what -- we don't think so either!
  
  6. Finally, we love France. Yes, they have pulled some royal screw-ups. Yes, some of them can be pretty damn annoying. But have you forgotten we wouldn't even have this country known as America if it weren't for the French? That it was their help in the Revolutionary War that won it for us? That it was France who gave us our Statue of Liberty, a Frenchman who built the Chevrolet, and a pair of French brothers who invented the movies? And now they are doing what only a good friend can do -- tell you the truth about yourself, straight, no b.s. Quit pissing on the French and thank them for getting it right for once. You know, you really should have traveled more (like once) before you took over. Your ignorance of the world has not only made you look stupid, it has painted you into a corner you can't get out of.
  
  Well, cheer up -- there IS good news. If you do go through with this war, more than likely it will be over soon because I'm guessing there aren't a lot of Iraqis willing to lay down their lives to protect Saddam Hussein. After you "win" the war, you will enjoy a huge bump in the popularity polls as everyone loves a winner -- and who doesn't like to see a good ass-whoopin' every now and then (especially when it 's some third world ass!). And just like with Afghanistan, we'll forget about what happens to a country after we bomb it 'cause that is just too complex! So try your best to ride this victory all the way to next year's election. Of course, that's still a long ways away, so we'll all get to have a good hardy-har-har while we watch the economy sink even further down the toilet!
  
  But, hey, who knows -- maybe you'll find Osama a few days before the election! See, start thinking like THAT! Keep hope alive! Kill Iraqis -- they got our oil!!
  
  Yours,
  Michael Moore
  

  Dakotawhine must be very happy,now that there is war again...
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  Confusion about support for forces and support for war

  by Simon in

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  the government here is claiming that support for the war is growing and encouraging people to 'get behind our forces'.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2863055.stm.

  i think they are taking advantage of the fact that people will naturally support "our forces" to make out that people are then supporting the governments actions.

  to put it another way, just because people oppose the war does not mean that they want "our forces" to lose.

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  berten

  >So, I think it is a perfectly reasonable and logical position to be against the war but supporting the forces.

  >What do you think?

  The forces should not be there to start with,but those that are there do so by their own choice,and should take

  responsability for their choice,they don't need my support,so none is given.

  I'm trying to put this as diplomatic as possible,but here is a link to someone who has thrown all diplomacy

  out the window: h**p://w*w.davidicke.com/icke/index1c.html (Scroll down towards the March 19,2003 entry)

  The link is disabled (So use copy and paste) to prevent going there by accident because this *will* offend most

  readers in here...